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Unread 05-25-2009, 11:17 PM   #1
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no sex drive worse then when i was on the oxy , this is a terrible thing. im going to try 4 mgs again tomorow, an then try to get off this stuff asap , sleepy agitated , it seems all i get from this is alot of nasty side efects, a few more weeksif things dont change , i will ween off , an use my program to stay away from the other stuff
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Unread 05-26-2009, 01:45 AM   #2
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Scotty I'm sorry it's not panning out for you. Sadly it cannot be the perfect medication for everyone. With all of the other tools and methods out there I'm sure you will do fine. I sure wish you the very best, hang in there.

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Unread 05-26-2009, 11:52 PM   #3
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again thanks mike i will see what happens the next few weeks, yes the doc said its tough , that i am the only person so far that has not took to well to it,other than 1 person tha was getting bad headaches, an is know taking subutex. if i drop back to 4 mgs i may not get the pain relief , that i seem to be getting , we are hopeing that evetualy i be able will move up to 8mgs 4mgs in the morning 4 at night , mostly at night is when i feel my pain , so he said mabey evan 2 mgs in the morming 6 at night , but for now we are swithching the the 4 in the morning to the 4 at night , he seems to think if its helping me sleep , an a little more than i want , my body just needs more time to adjust i hope, i thought i heard someone say they started at 2mgs an moved up to 10 mgs after awhile , an gets great pain relief, no cravings for drugs or booze wich is the best part
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Unread 05-27-2009, 10:00 AM   #4
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no sex drive worse then when i was on the oxy , this is a terrible thing. im going to try 4 mgs again tomorow, an then try to get off this stuff asap , sleepy agitated , it seems all i get from this is alot of nasty side efects, a few more weeksif things dont change , i will ween off , an use my program to stay away from the other stuff
I don't know if you realize that addiction is a lifethreatening condition! Symptoms like a lower libido and constipation are minor things in the scope of things. If you don't prepare and take the time to make changes in your life, you're setting yourself up for relapse by dropping out of treatment too soon.
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Unread 05-27-2009, 06:03 PM   #5
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Another thing to note here - I've never even started sub and have been clean from the addiction for 28 days now. I have no sex drive either so it may not be the sub at all, it may just be coming down from the DOC. Just a thought. That is still the least of my worries at this point in time but maybe you are male and that makes a difference too I'm told!
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Unread 05-28-2009, 12:56 AM   #6
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I don't know if you realize that addiction is a lifethreatening condition! Symptoms like a lower libido and constipation are minor things in the scope of things. If you don't prepare and take the time to make changes in your life, you're setting yourself up for relapse by dropping out of treatment too soon.
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hi listen man are you mister recovery or what , i probley know more about addtion than you smart ace you act like every one should stay on this stuff for years , i will take it 1 day at a time , an i have been reading recovery an addiction books for years . an have worked with alot of people an see alot to so dont act like a know it all , so stop telling people what they should do . an worry about your huge ego, an i dont need to here from egomaniacs

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Unread 05-28-2009, 09:28 AM   #7
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scotttty,
Oh sorry, I didn't realize that you were such an expert. You sound educated and like you've really got it together and don't have any issues. You should do fine without my advice - good luck
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Unread 05-28-2009, 03:17 PM   #8
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Oh sorry, I didn't realize that you were such an expert. You sound educated and like you've really got it together and don't have any issues. You should do fine without my advice - good luck
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thats right know it all , if you pull that crap to me face to face , i would stay way from you , i dont need your egotistical posts , an i dont care to read your story , its know diffrent then most, so cut the chit ase hole,


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Unread 05-28-2009, 10:39 PM   #9
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i am sorry hay if the guy was not so into himself , there would not be a problem , mabey you should see that kind of addvise is frowned up on , an most people , get turned off by that approch, an may not come back , anyway , i think my side effect is legit to talk about,
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Unread 06-02-2009, 09:48 AM   #10
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No shame in taking a little rocket fuel, like Viagra. You only need a piece of one and you'll have more sex drive than you know what to do with. You'll be able to hammer nails with it.
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Unread 06-02-2009, 11:17 AM   #11
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i am sorry hay if the guy was not so into himself , there would not be a problem , mabey you should see that kind of addvise is frowned up on , an most people , get turned off by that approch, an may not come back , anyway , i think my side effect is legit to talk about, .
hi scotty, everybodies getting crazy, how would you like to have hot flashes, feels like your burning up every 15 minutes, and no sex drive, its harder for a women to get releif. i seen i another post, that for a man theres a cream put some on your shoulder everyday, something like that you dont want to have another relapse, so be careful. dawnny
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Unread 06-02-2009, 02:51 PM   #12
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thanks we will see how it goes , still just trying to get used to sub, it is definatley worce than some other opoids , is what i am saying, i am clean with no thoughts of useing , i have a good 12 step program AA
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Unread 06-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #13
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It is way worse in some ways. Constipation is 1000 times worse than regular opiates. For me, Metamucil once a day gets everything working again. Plus the side effects seem to start going away after a few months. Even the taste isn't that bad after a while.
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Unread 06-02-2009, 08:08 PM   #14
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The constipation is horrible and my sex drive is in the dumps too. Not too quick to blame it on the sub tho cause I am also on AD and other stuff plus going through recovery. I have 82 days under my belt and it's been hard stressful work so that contributes i think. It's all a combination that lowers that sex drive. It's also hard to feel sexy when your full of S***. LMAO :-) That was gross, but very true don't know 'bout you but I get pretty darn bloated! LOL
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Unread 06-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #15
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Scottty, only you know what is the best for you and your recovery. Good Luck in that endeavor. Keep us posted!
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Unread 06-03-2009, 01:47 AM   #16
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There are some pretty good older threads on this site about sex, but, I will try to recap some of the better highlights, as they may help someone.

First yes, opiates, any opiates can and do ruin our sexual desires. However, unlike it was with our former drugs of choice, with Suboxone we are in a position to lower our dose as we progress in recovery, so in this case there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Some of the past suggestions I enjoyed most were the ones which took this bad situation and used it as a reason to better ourselves as lovers and as partners. The basic thought is, now we have to be more creative, spending more time on romancing each other and spending more time playing.

Naturally there are many suggestions on things which can be done in those areas, but, I am going to spare all of you from going into the specifics and simply leave you with the general concept.

Enjoy exploring and playing!

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Unread 06-03-2009, 02:34 PM   #17
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well honestly when i started this thread, the sub was makeing me feel sick , i guess what the thread should have said is who is getting sex drive side effects , an who is not tell us , the days seem better than the nights, as far as feeling normal goes thanks mike for the reminder i dont want sex enhancing drugs ,an this to shall pass thanx to all addiction survivors
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Unread 06-03-2009, 04:55 PM   #18
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Scotty, I know some of the side effects can really be frustrating at times. I didn't have the lack of sex issue, in fact, it worked the opposite on me. But, honestly the constipation and the sweating worked on my nerves at times. But, I tried to refocus on the bigger picture, beating addiction and knowing if I did, then those things would take care of themselves, as my dose came down.

So stay focused, work a good all around, well rounded recovery plan and try to focus on life and living it, instead of the few draw backs. You can do it and when you need to vent, then let it out.

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Unread 06-03-2009, 09:57 PM   #19
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Good points, Ohio. It's good to keep reminding ourselves about the HUGE DIFFERENCE between Sub and our DOC. That blessed difference being that Sub involves gradual lowering of dosage while our DOCs involved, without exception, ever-increasing dosages, leading to wrecked lives, liver damage, jail or death. Also good point about spending a little more time on the foreplay and creativity. Yes, this is like learning how to live differently.
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Unread 06-05-2009, 12:34 AM   #20
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It is way worse in some ways. Constipation is 1000 times worse than regular opiates. For me, Metamucil once a day gets everything working again. Plus the side effects seem to start going away after a few months. Even the taste isn't that bad after a while.
thanks to all it is getting better glad to know this should fade with time , your so right about it being 1000 times worce , yup fiber therapy , oh well , feeling pretty good to night , i think its been 3 weeks tueday , so time
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Unread 06-14-2009, 10:31 PM   #21
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yee ha , i dont think i went 28 days without sex since i can remember , today was good lets put it that way, the things we take for granted
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Unread 06-16-2009, 02:00 AM   #22
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Scotty

I noticed that as my doses lowered both issues improved dramatically.

I started at 32mgs and probably started noticing the differences around 20mgs. Now at eight I very rarely experience either issue, but the constipation on sub, for me was never as bad as the full opiates.

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Unread 06-16-2009, 09:02 AM   #23
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Hi scottty, good to hear you're doing better!

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Unread 06-16-2009, 04:40 PM   #24
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Try testosterone level check

I'd bet it is low as opioids can do this over time. I get injections every three weeks and it helps a lot. mood can also improve and depression gets a little better.

Try it you'll like it! lol

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Unread 06-27-2009, 12:00 AM   #25
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thanks for the the replys thing have improved, an mostley the quality of life . me an my md talked on tuesday .i told him i wanted to stay on sub till at least jan, an some time around this time we may disscuss taper got up to 8 mgs , 7 seems to work better it seems like more people go down than up, this is probley my number , this being bacause it seems to help with chronic pain also, but i still need to ride my low impact bike , i think it was a great 200 dollar investment,as well as strethching keeping myself busy, an going to meetings thanks folks
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Unread 06-27-2009, 09:27 AM   #26
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Hi scottty, thanks for another good update! It's so nice to hear your quality of life is better. That's great that you seem to have a good doctor who isn't forcing you to taper when you're not ready.

Have a great weekend!
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