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Unread 04-08-2006, 07:58 PM   #1
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I have a problem, and I hope you can resolve it for me. I have been on sub for 14 days, and Im doing great. I was on 80mg methodone. I noticed during withdrawl in the past and now each night when I try to go to sleep, when Im at the edge of falling asleep something very weird happens. It feels like a jolt of electricity Hitting me all at once, mostly in my upper body and head. It usually doesnt happen if there is no noise, or if the TV is off. I cant even take a nap during the day because of this. Sometimes it feels like Ive just encountered a hard hit to the head or chest. It is A very uncomfortable feeling. Ive told my G.P. about this he has no clue what it could be. I know about NO patient, DR. relationship. Thats not what Im doing. I want to know if this is a normal part of withdrawl, Or if anyone else has this problem. I respect your knowledge, and value your opinion. Once I fall asleep, it doesnt occur, I also will add, i sleep well once I get there.

If anyone else has had this problem let me know. If there is any sites I could explore, let me know. You guys have helped me more than I can say. During the day Im feeling great but im starting to dread bedtime. Sometimes it doesnt happen at all. I just cant figure this out. If you all hadnt made me feel so much at home I couldnt have written this

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Unread 04-08-2006, 08:42 PM   #2
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Hey Brett -

I was thinking of starting a thread about the same thing. Only I don't exactly have that "electrical" feeling about those jolts. I've been on sub for 13 months. Now, when I'm trying to fall asleep, I notice some really big "twitches" mostly in my legs and arms. I also have this feeling like I'm suddenly falling, so I jerk real hard. It's gotten to the point that my poor husband has a hard time staying asleep.

I've been told that it's the absence of antidepressants that causes this. And that may be true, since I only recently stopped taking prozac. I'm still on Wellbutrin.

I'm still wondering what this is about.

Hey, much congrats to you for giving the sub a try. It has truly made a wonderful difference in my life.

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Unread 04-08-2006, 09:02 PM   #3
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Brett, I've had one or two patients report feeling something like a 'chill' that suddenly runs through their whole body. Don't know the cause but maybe related to withdrawal reaction. Also, withdrawal from opioids causes piloerection, where your hair stands on end, and I wonder if that's what you're experiencing...does it feel like the hair is standing up on the back of your neck and/or head? I don't know what the noise connection could be. The only other thing I can think of right now is that perhaps you are suceptible to a condition called 'sleep paralysis', which is not related to opioids or withdrawal. I don't understand the noise connection with this either. But let me think about this some more and make some inguiries.
If there is anything else you can add, please do.
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PS: I'll be off the computer for the rest of the evening.
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Unread 04-08-2006, 09:42 PM   #4
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Caroline,
I would like to know what sleep paralysis is. No it doesnt feel like hair standing up. You reminded me of something I use to experience as a teenager and young man. I use to find myself in a state of half asleep and half awake during these moments I would try to move anything I could on my body and I would lie there paralized for a minute or 2. It was like I had no control over my body. This hasnt happened in a long time. Maybe what im experiencing now Is related to that.

What im experiencing now has troubled me off and on for the past couple of years. Mostly during stressful times such as withdrawl from lack of opiates. It would seem like each time I would try to give up my habit it would start. Its been happening every nite since I stopped methodone. The feeling I get is very intense, Almost painful while it is occuring, Then no syptoms at all once Im awake. Its a dreadful feeling of despair. Some times I jump completely out of bed. I even hit my head on the ceiling fan one nite. Sometimes it happens just before I fall asleep. It almost feels like im dying. This all sounds crazy to me, but ive tried to explain it the best way I can. I cant be the only person who has this condition. Has anybody else heard of this condition?

Thank you so much for trying to help me.

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Unread 04-08-2006, 10:08 PM   #5
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Brett,
I've been on sub since Oct. 31st, 2005 and ever since, every night while I lay in bed, starting to drift off, my whole body jerks. I have no control over this. It does not last long. It is definitely involuntary on my part. It's almost like that feeling you get when you think you are falling but your not. Although I don't get the feeling like I'm falling part. I never really gave it much thought because I sleep pretty good after this.
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Unread 04-08-2006, 10:57 PM   #6
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Hi Brett,
Here's a link I found on Sleep Paralysis that's pretty interesting:
http://www.nightterrors.org/paralysis.html

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Unread 04-08-2006, 11:19 PM   #7
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Thanks 4 the link! This is definitly what I had as a young man, Maybe I have some form of it now, They say stress brings it on, we all no about how stressful our withdrawl and getting use to our new life is. This forum has been very helpful to me THANK YOU

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Unread 04-09-2006, 02:15 AM   #8
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Hi all
Been on Sub now for 35 days, And what a difference it has made in my outlook on my life. No more wanting to get Vicodin ES just to cope with living. Was cleaning my closet a couple of days ago and came across a full bottle of 60 Vikes ES, So i picked it up and held it my hands wondering when i had stashed it there and why i forgot i had put them there. Well anyways i was at a crossroads wondering what i was to do with them, A minute later they were flushed down the toilet with no hesitation and positively no regrets. 36 days ago i would have never dont that. This is how well counseling and Sub is working for me. I love my Dr, She is so compassionet and understanding i see the smile on her face when i tell her my progress and victories.Well enough of that time to get on topic. Brett: I to have the very same episodes that you are having, I had such a out of body expieriance last night when i went to bed it really frightened me. I jumped completely out of bed. I noticed it happens right before i fall into sleep. Very strange indeed. Keith
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Unread 04-09-2006, 12:21 PM   #9
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Brett

This sounds like sleep paralysis, a topic I know very little about. I too have experienced this especially when I have been sleep deprived. It always seems to happen when I am taking a quit nap and I am just falling asleep. I am there but I can't move anything. I want to break the feeling but I can't. I think the best approach would be to get adequate amounts of sleep, avoid excess caffeine, sleep in a comfortable bed and maybe even try some relaxtion techniques prior to bedtime.
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Unread 04-09-2006, 01:17 PM   #10
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Thanks everyone,

I know for a fact as a younger man I had sleep paralysis, but I havnt had the feeling of not being able to move in 15 years or so.
Last night as I was going to sleep, This happened 3 times. I would jump up, totally alarmed. The feeling Is like a extreme rush to the upper body, A very unpleasant one. It kinda feels like ive just had a hit to the head no pain just brief dizzeness. Maybe this is another form of sleep paralysis.

Im usually very tired and sleepy when this happens. Ive lost alot of sleep the last 3 weeks maybe that brings this on. Any input from you all will be appreciated.

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Unread 04-09-2006, 01:34 PM   #11
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Hi Brett, Here's something else I found on sleep paralysis: http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

How can I stop the sleep paralysis?
In severe cases, where episodes take place at least once a week for 6 months, medication may be used.

You may be able to minimize the episodes by following good sleep hygiene:
-getting enough sleep
-reduce stress
-exercise regularly (but not too close to bedtime)
-keep a regular sleep schedule

And I'm trying to find where I read that taking benedryl at bedtime might be helpful. I read that earlier and I thought I bookmarked it, but duh, I guess I didn't!! I'll look again...
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Edit: Brett, I can't find that reference to Benedryl again. Sorry! But most of the other sites I went to said pretty much the same thing about getting enough sleep, etc. (What I did was a Google search on Sleep Paralysis.) Hope that's of some help!
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Unread 04-09-2006, 02:53 PM   #12
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Nancy,

What type of medication? Thanks for your help! This is happening to me every night.
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Unread 04-09-2006, 03:14 PM   #13
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Brett, This site: http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html mentions SSRIs (anti-depressants), but they also say it's completely inconclusive.

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Possible causes

Little is known about the physiology of sleep paralysis. However, some have suggested that it may be linked to post-synaptic inhibition of motor neurons in the pons region of the brain. In particular, low levels of melatonin may stop the depolarisation current in the nerves, which prevents the stimulation of the muscles.
There is also a significant positive correlation between those experiencing this disorder frequently and those suffering from narcolepsy. However, various studies suggest that many or most people will experience sleep paralysis at least once or twice in their lives.
Some report that various factors increase the likelihood of both paralysis and hallucinations.

These include:

Sleeping in a supine position (facing upwards)
Irregular sleeping schedules; naps, sleeping in, sleep deprivation
Increased stress
Sudden environmental/lifestyle changes
A lucid dream that immediately precedes the episode

And this link is from that link: http://www.spis.org.uk/

Maybe you should talk to your doctor and see if he/she knows something about this? I wish I knew more about it... Or maybe there's a sleep disorder specialist near you, some hospitals have sleep disorder clinics.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 07:19 AM   #14
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I found this on Google......Actually it is my understanding that as the body falls asleep the parasympathetic nervous system kicks in (it is a mirror” of your awake nersous system, with separate nerves and all, and runs along side your waking nerves. It can maintain body function while you sleep).

When the body switches over nervous systems there is an initial jolt of Potassion ions sent down the nerve cells which wakes them up”. This happens basically instantaneously and causes the muscles, especially skeletal muscles, to jerk” or flex.


I have had sleep paralysis. One time it lasted for weeks. I would wake up and not be able to move at all and I would try to scream and no sound would come out. Sometimes I would feel like I was sliding off my bed even though I couldn't lift even my head up. It got so bad that I hated to fall asleep. I told my therapist about it and he said to think about what it stands for. At the time I was under a lot of stress and I felt like I was being held back (paralysis) from what I wanted and that I wasn't being heard (trying to scream but nothing would cone out). Since discussing this with my therapist that day I have never had it happen again. weird huh?
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Unread 04-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #15
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Good point, I have definitly been under stress.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 12:24 PM   #16
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Medications that I've heard used for sleep paralysis are nortriptyline, seroquel. and benzos. Probably anything that gets a person past the initial stage of sleep would work, so benedryl and other anti-histamines would probably work too.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 12:51 PM   #17
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To everyone;

When I first wrote this topic I was terrified that something was seriously wrong with me. Thru your support and knowledge I now realize this is a normal condition. I feel alot better about it. This forum has saved alot of people. God bless you all!! I am here for the long haul, I want to help others as you all have helped me!

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Unread 04-10-2006, 07:07 PM   #18
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I have had full-on sleep paralysis for about 20 years now. It gets real bad sometimes. The feeling like there is something evil around me or holding me down. It can be real bothersome and real scary. Many times I can hear everything around me and sometimes I can see my room clearly, but cannot move. I can say that when I've used opiates, it went away -- probably because of the sedation properties. I have also had the jerking motions during the last stages of withdrawal (mostly when I was on methadone). It does wake you from a sound sleep.
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Unread 04-16-2006, 01:43 PM   #19
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Update"
I am still having the same problem, It is not the sleep Paralysis I had years ago. This happens within 5 minutes of falling asleep. This has happened each time I stopped taking opiates, Whan im on opiates I dont have this problem. Could it be possible the opiates caused a problem in my brain? Once im asleep I sleep all nite. This is driving me crazy. I wake suddenly dizzy, heart racing, Breathing fast. I still feel the sysmptons after im sitting up for a few seconds. HELP

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Unread 04-16-2006, 02:56 PM   #20
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What you are describing now, sounds somewhat like a panic attack. Is that a possibility?

...another thought is some form of sleep apnea that occurs when you first fall asleep? The fast heart rate can occur when the body doesn't get enough oxygen and the rapid breathing could be the result of trying to get in enough oxygen.

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Unread 04-16-2006, 05:26 PM   #21
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The part of this I dont understand is why it doesnt happen when I was on opiates. It happens every nite, I dread going to bed. I thought sleep apnea occured in the 3rd or 4th stage of sleep. This problem keeps me from totally falling asleep. When this happens it feels very real, I have physical symtpons from it. I hope somebody can help me with this problem, Im getting dark cicles under my eyes from not enough sleep

When i was on full opiates this never happened. WHY
Caroline, have you been able to find out anything?
Could a prescribtion sleep pill help?
Ill take any advice I can get.

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Unread 04-16-2006, 07:26 PM   #22
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Brett, Did you try the Benadryl? I was just wondering... I also get the jumps, jerking arms or legs when I am about to sleep and it wakes me up. When I first started the sub. I would sleep and during the night (and day) I would do it according to my boyfriend and not wake to know. But when I first go to sleep i would wake myself. I think that the heavy sedation effects of the opiates would stop this from happening. As screwed up as we all were while on drugs, we could be jumping or moving and not even realize that we were. Anyway--I have been struggling with the sleep thing as some of you have read or added to my post yesterday. Perhaps time and adjustments will tell. I hope you feel better and get some quality sleep soon. (We are all so alert and aware of our bodies now, aren't we?!) I know my input repeated others but hopefully it will make you more comfortable and confident in yourself. Take care~~~~~~~~Stacey
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Unread 04-16-2006, 07:31 PM   #23
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This is difficult without knowing more about your medical history, etc, but your doc might want to do 24 hr EKG monitoring....? cardiac arrythymias ?
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Unread 04-17-2006, 01:16 AM   #24
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Caroline,
I am ahealthy 43yr old male in good physical condition. The only medication i take other than sub is 480mg Verapimil for hypertenion. My wife said my breathing sounds normal. Last nite after I finally went to sleep, she said my body jumped and jolted, Legs, arms,. She said this happened off and on for about an hour. I always had this problem when I reduced my opiate dose. I have been on sub 3 weeks off methodone 4 weeks. I have no problems during the day. I am very active physically in my job each day. It seems to me this has something to do with full opiates, Im not sure why. I recently had a physical with blood work done. Everything was normal. I may try taking my sub dose later in the evening to see if that helps.

Stacey
The past few nights I tried sleep aides, It didnt help. I hope this is part of methodone withdrawl, and it will be over soon. I have to schudule a appt with my sub doc this week I will see what he thinks. If it werent for this I would be doing fine.
Thanks to everyone who has tried to help.

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Unread 04-17-2006, 04:03 AM   #25
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Brett:
I had similiar symptoms coming off of methadone the last time, although, not as severe as yours sound. Methadone, for all of the good it does many people, is really very wicked to come of...at least that has been my experience!!

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Unread 04-17-2006, 01:18 PM   #26
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Brett, Does this better describe your symptoms? I thought it was interesting that they said pain killers can be used to reduce the movements. Maybe it's a condition you had all along but the opiates you were taking covered it up? I got this info from www.talkaboutsleep.com It's a great website. Check it out!

Periodic Limb Movement Disorder (PLMD), formerly known as nocturnal myoclonus, is a condition in which a person's legs or arms twitch or move involuntarily and periodically during sleep. PLMD is not the same as night muscle spasms, or hypnic jerks, that occasionally occur when a person is falling asleep. These jerks are normal.

The limb movements typically occur 20 to 30 seconds apart, 5 or more times an hour, on and off throughout the night during periods of non-REM sleep. The rhythmic episodes usually involve a partial flexing of the big toe, ankle, knee, and occasionally, the hips.

The affected individual is usually unaware of the repetitive motion or the accompanying brief awakenings that disrupt sleep. Thus, people who have PLMD usually complain of difficulty in falling asleep, staying asleep, or staying awake during the day. They may also note restless sleep, hot or cold feet, or hair wearing off their legs. Bed partners often report being kicked, fighting for bed covers, or being awakened by the movements.

What Causes Periodic Limb Movement Disorder?
The cause of PLMD is unclear. Some researchers suggest PLMD is caused by reactions in the brain, while others suggest it might originate in the spinal cord. It may also be associated with circulatory problems. PLMD is often seen in patients with kidney disease, metabolic disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, pregnancy, or circulatory problems.

PLMD becomes more common as people age - around 34% of people over the age of 60 have PLMD. It occurs in men and women equally. This disorder is not very common in people under 30 years of age. Many people with PLMD also have Restless Legs Syndrome.

How is PLMD Diagnosed?
To diagnose PLMD, leg movements are recorded during sleep. Sensors placed over the calf muscle record the number of leg movements during each hour of sleep. This is called the Periodic Limb Movement index. If this index is greater than or equal to five, i.e., leg movements occurred at least five times an hour, then the diagnosis of PLMD is made.

When Should I See A Doctor?
Many people with PLMD do not require treatment because they sleep soundly and do not suffer from excessive daytime sleepiness or insomnia. For light sleepers, consulting with a personal doctor or a sleep specialist is recommended if symptoms of PLMD interfere with daily activities. PLMD is commonly associated with Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS), daytime sleepiness, and fatigue.

Relaxation therapy and good sleep practices encourage sound sleep in some PLMD patients. Refer to Sleep Tips for Successful Sleep for behaviors that help improve sleep.

The first step in treating any sleep disorder is to ascertain any underlying causes. Anemia, diabetes, or the use of certain antidepressants can contribute to leg movements. Often treatment of these underlying problems can relieve the symptoms of PLMD.

Various medications may help the person suffering from PLMD. Sleeping pills prevent the sleeper from frequent awakenings, but do not subdue the leg movements. Painkillers reduce the number of leg movements, but have little effect treating insomnia.

To date, drugs used to treat Parkinson's disease seem to be the most effective - they treat both the movements and the insomnia. Drugs such as Sinemet (carbidopa or levodopa) and Mirapex (pramipexole dihydrochloride) are commonly used in this regard. Their side effects are minimal. However, the effects of long-term use in younger adults are unknown. Because PLMD is usually not treated with medication unless in combination with RLS and other symptoms, refer to "How is RLS Treated?" in the Introduction to Restless Legs Syndrome.

Vitamin and mineral supplements have shown to have some success treating PLMD. However, this treatment has not been proven clinically. Vitamin E may alleviate PLMD symptoms if poor peripheral circulation is the cause. Relaxation therapy and good sleep practices encourage sound sleep in some PLMD patients.
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Unread 04-17-2006, 01:42 PM   #27
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While we are talking about sleep, Does anyone get very tired after any of their doses? I just can't understand why I am so tired after the morning dose to the point of needing a nap. I am worried because I need to go back to work and can't function like this. At night I would love to be sleepy and lay in bed and feel so comfortable that I just go right to sleep. I sure miss that..... (sorry I hopped on your thread, Brett)~~~Stacey~~~ CAROLINE, WHEN DO YOU TELL YOUR PATIENTS TO DOSE THEMSELVES??
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Unread 04-17-2006, 06:06 PM   #28
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Stacey,
Fromwhat you say, I think you should take your sub around 5pm and before bedtime. No it never makes me sleepy.

Saved by Sub,
Yes that does sound familiar, not all but some of it. Thank you.

To everyone,
Last night was the 1st night my problem didnt happen since I took my last dose of meth. I took an addition 2mg of Sub about an hour before bedtime, I was able to go to sleep with no problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I plan to take my last dose of the day just before bedtime.I will let you know if it works again.

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Unread 04-20-2006, 10:27 PM   #29
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Brett I too get this sensation when I try to sleep it's like a silent BANG in my head.It is very disturbing, however I've just accepted it as part of Bupe treatment.I've been on it foe 7 months and was also on a large amount of methadone before starting.The good news is whatever it is it hasn't killed me!!I also get the severe twitches in the arms and legs more like a jolt really.I wouldn't be to worried it's most likely got something to do with the brain getting back to normal.........Peace Spanky
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Unread 04-20-2006, 11:56 PM   #30
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Sometimes it feels like my upper body has been hit by lightning. I still can feel the results 2or 3 seconds after im stiting up. Does it make you feel like your dying? Scares the sh4t out of me. It happened to me before sub, each time I had withdrawl it would happen. I'm a healthy person for a addict. Maybe it is the brain healing. Thanks 4 the word.

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Unread 04-21-2006, 09:55 AM   #31
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I have some problems too. It's like I'm not fully asleep and it feels like I'm falling off a cliff. I feels like my brain is falling out the back of my head and i cant move or speak,Very scary , I have to get up and move around or it will keep happening agin when I try to go back to sleep.
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Unread 04-21-2006, 11:27 AM   #32
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Cal,
You have sleep paralisis my friend, read some of these posts,there are links.
Caroline, my wife says i chew in my sleep, fling my arms in legs around all night. Its been almost a month since I took methodone, shouldnt this be letting up?

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Unread 04-29-2006, 01:00 PM   #33
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I need some help,

Could somebody tell me all the different types of sleep disorders?
I cant find one that fits my problem.
Last night as I was drifting off to sleep, something woke me. It felt like a electrical shock. I sat up, terrified, heart pounding, very dizzy for a few seconds. I am a healthy Man, I need to know what the hell this is!!!! It never happens after ive been asleep for awhile; It is not sleep paralisis. This never happened BD or while using drugs. Only now and at times of withdrawl.
I cant put up with this forever, I would rather do drugs. I am doing great accept for this. Can someone check this out for me. I know this isnt as interesting as the other sh#t that goes on, but I need help.

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Unread 04-29-2006, 01:19 PM   #34
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brett, here's a website you might want to check out. It's a way to find sleep centers. Maybe there's one near you, and there's a doctor who's a sleep expert who might know? Please let me know if this helps.
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http://www.sleepcenters.org/

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Unread 04-29-2006, 01:33 PM   #35
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Nancy,
God bless you!!!! I found a place close to me that deals with sleep disorders!!!!! I sent them an email THANK YOU!!!

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Unread 04-29-2006, 01:35 PM   #36
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Excellent Brett! I hope they can help you. Please keep me updated on what it is. There's got to be something that can help.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
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Unread 04-29-2006, 01:56 PM   #37
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Brett,
Are you going to have that "lightning Bolt" problem checked out?? I am REALLY curious to hear what they say about that. I spoke to the group this morning and out of 30 people, 20 of them have experienced this problem also..including me.....
P.S. i am sending you mail in a few minutes...
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Unread 04-29-2006, 02:52 PM   #38
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Badhabits,

I have two choices #1 get this problem fixed. #2 go back to using.

I cant take this much longer, I know this sounds weird, But it actually feels like my brain has lost its oxygen supply and my heart has stopped, Like im inbetween life and death. It is a VERY powerful feeling. This has happened over the past 2 years during times of withdrawl and now.
I am a very active 43 year old Im pysical fit, 6-1 210lbs I jog 1 mile every other day. During the day im happy and fine I cant even take a freakin nap. This is really troubling me. I will get checked out. I dont have insurance,, but I do own a construction business and im do have some funds. Anybody know the costs for sleep tests???

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Unread 04-29-2006, 07:02 PM   #39
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Hey Brett:

I have had a sleeping disorder for years associated with PTSD primarily. I took Reardon's advice and asked my physician for some Seroquel, and although I don't particularly like the effect I get from it firt thing in the morning, it works like a charm! My doctor told me it is actually a very powerful antipsychotic medication used primarily for bipolar disorder, but in lower doses (450mg t 600 mg) the side effect of inducing sleep is very effective.

I works. I do not use it every night, but only those nights "I know" the sleep is not going to come easily.

Just a thought....

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Unread 05-07-2006, 05:24 AM   #40
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HELP!!

I am at the end of my rope with this problem. I tried to go to sleep 3 times tonight , each time I tried It felt like my body was shutting down and a fierce jolt ran thru my chest. I take 480mg of verapimil for high blood pressure, Im wondering if the combination of the this and sub could be causing this. I took my bloodpressure after the last episode it was 142/82 pulse 54. Could it be possible that my heart rate is slowing so much it is causing my brain to suffer from oxygen loss? I have 0 problems during the day, I am very active. THIS NEVER HAPPENS AFTER I FALL INTO A DEEP SLEEP. Ive tried taking my sub dose AT different times of the day, nothing seems to help. The only night this didnt happen was when I took a extra dose one day. I accidently took 24mg one day last week. This problem seems to be getting worse by the day. Can anyone help'

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Unread 05-08-2006, 03:27 AM   #41
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Brett~
I don't have anything to offer you but just want to say I'm sorry for this sleep issue. I really hope you can find some answers someday. Perhaps you need a sleep study??? ~~~~~~~Stacey~~~~~~
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Unread 05-09-2006, 05:00 PM   #42
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My Doctor is going to try a medication called Gabitril, Anyone heard of this? My condition is Hypnagogic Jerks, My wife just calls me a plain jerk It is a form of sleep paralysis, I have a very severe case.

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Unread 05-09-2006, 05:09 PM   #43
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My Doctor is going to try a medication called Gabitril, Anyone heard of this? My condition is Hypnagogic Jerks, My wife just calls me a plain jerk It is a form of sleep paralysis, I have a very severe case.
I was prescribed gabitril for nerve pain. It spaced me out in a very bizarre way. I don't know how to describe it. But I am particularly sensitive to any drug that messes with GABA.

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Unread 05-09-2006, 05:40 PM   #44
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Ah Yes! Modern Medicine! Well this drug causes this problem. NO PROBLEM! We have ANOTHER Drug to correct the problem the first drug is causing!! I GOTTA GET INTO THIS SCAM!!
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Unread 05-09-2006, 08:54 PM   #45
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My Doctor is going to try a medication called Gabitril, Anyone heard of this? My condition is Hypnagogic Jerks, My wife just calls me a plain jerk It is a form of sleep paralysis, I have a very severe case.
I was prescribed gabitril for nerve pain. It spaced me out in a very bizarre way. I don't know how to describe it. But I am particularly sensitive to any drug that messes with GABA.

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GUTS-- Whatis GABA??????
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Unread 05-10-2006, 12:07 AM   #46
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Brett, I hope this takes care of you jerk, I mean your jerk. Aw only kidding my friend! BIG TIME sleep beams to you. -Mary
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Unread 05-11-2006, 07:02 AM   #47
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I cant take much more of this

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Unread 05-11-2006, 08:02 PM   #48
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Hi Brett,
I was just wondering if the new med the doctor prescribed for you has helped at all. Did he say it would take some time to build up in your system or is it meant to be effective immediately? I noticed your last post was at 3am and you sounded pretty frustrated and desperate, as I`m sure you are. My initial thought was maybe you should reduce your dose a bit and then I just read your earlier post saying it didn`t happen on the night you took extra. If this Gabitril doesn`t work then I would book into a sleep clinic ASAP. You can`t keep going on like this. Good luck Brett. Hope you find some answers to this real soon..... Ros.
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Unread 05-12-2006, 02:21 AM   #49
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Brother Brett,
So it's still happening huh? Please try reducing you Sub dose and see if you still experiance this. Or, at least try not dosing at all after say, 5:30pm.Man, I don't know what to say about this but my sleep probs left when I reduced my total Daily Sub dose. You have my number if you want to call me Bro.I sure hope you get some answers soon.
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Brother Brett,
So it's still happening huh? Please try reducing you Sub dose and see if you still experiance this. Or, at least try not dosing at all after say, 5:30pm.Man, I don't know what to say about this but my sleep probs left when I reduced my total Daily Sub dose. You have my number if you want to call me Bro.I sure hope you get some answers soon.
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