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Unread 12-02-2010, 05:26 PM   #1
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PLEASE HELP, im currently in suboxone treatment....my doctor switched me to subutex from suboxone, because the suboxone was making me feel like shit.... wished i could take the suboxone film instead of the pills, because they dissolve very fast and the taste isnt bad either but the problem im having now is that my doctor switched me back on the suboxone film, because he said he had to put EVERYONE on suboxone and off of subutex...the subutex help me to live a more normal life, even though all my drug screens have been clean, and i dont want to use on the subutex, he knows that 6mts ago the sideeffects from the suboxone is why he switched me to subutex...headaches, feeling like im running a fever, edgy, depressed-sleeping/nodding, no energy, feeling like crap basically on suboxone...my doctor acted as if i was lying or something, he said"theres not enuff of naloxone in the suboxone that should be causing those side effects" that made me so mad, he doesnt feel what i feel, he has no clue...and they act like they want to help you up there, its all a big money racket if u ask me, also I told him i dont have insurance and the price difference of the 2 is suboxone film $144.00 for 21(1weeks supply) and the subutex $57.75 for 21(1weeks supply) I just simply cant afford that, my doctor said "we are not concerned about cost here" but by hell I am, does he want to pay it for me??? I dont think so...so Im looking to change doctors, but dont know of any in kentucky right now that still writes the subutex, if anyone does know, or surrounding state of kentucky...would greatly appreciate it, im afraid if i keep feeling shitty im gonna relapse..thanks, kentucky gal!
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Unread 12-02-2010, 06:00 PM   #2
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I am sorry you are havin such issues with the doctor. Some people have sensitivity to the Naloxone in the Suboxone, and have found that spitting out the saliva from their mouth after dissolved can help with those side effects.

http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=22426

That is a copy of a post talking about it. I was trying to look for another about the sensitivity to the Naloxone, but Nancy is much better at that kinda stuff and am sure she will be able to come help you.

I was a little confused on why your Dr once put you on the -tex and then put you back on the Suboxone? Some doctors are against using the -tex b/c it can be abused more easily vs the Suboxone. But if he put you on it before and then kept switching you, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Do you have the $75 coupon for the film? It's good until March and can help you in the meantime while trying to figure out if you can find a new doctor or not. Here is a link that hase more info to possibly help with saving money on your script.

http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12915


And here is a link for helping to find treatment. There's a locator on the rt side of the screen where you can out ur zip code in and find doctors in your area.

http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=21259

Be sure to let them know you are already on a stable dose of Suuboxone and that you are trying to get on the -tex b/c of possible sensitivity to the Naloxone in the Sub. Try speaking with ur doctor about it again. Hope this helped some.
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Unread 12-02-2010, 06:19 PM   #3
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thank you so much, tlg, yes its true, he switched me to subutex about 6mts ago, his PA did, now that the strips are out, its like hes getting somekinda kick back or money for putting everyone on the strips unless youre pregnant. I can see if id had dirty drug screens, but I have NEVER had a dirty since i been going there. Also he seem to say "we are not worried about cost here" which seems heartless to say coming from someone that is supposed to be wanting to help you. I did get the $75 coupon, well i got the shitty end of the stick on that as well, I was going to cvs and i called around because they were 160 something for 21(1week) so i found them for 132 at a "mom and pop" pharmacy, i gave them my 75 coupon and she comes with my 21 and says "101.00" I said wait a minute, you told me on the phone it was 132.00 for 21 and she says well it is if you were paying just cash but with the co-pay, I said what co-pay i dont have insurance, the co-pay on the 75 coupon she said makes the medicine 176 for 21, she couldnt explain to me why the price went up on the medicine just because i was using the $75 coupon...said when she puts it in the computer that is the price that comes up, but yet if i wasnt using the $75 coupon I would only be paying 132.00....doesnt make since to me, and u can only use the coupon 1xmth, and that was only one weeks worth....i feel like crap from them too, I really dont want to relapse, and im trying to give them a few more days to see if the strips truely are different from the suboxone pills, but as of yet no improvement...ive just done a whole lot of praying for my sobriety and not to relapse during this time....seriously there is still the erge to right down the road and get high...just cause i feel so shitty....i would not want to do that, and the subutex didnt make me want to do that they made me feel normal, energy and feel like a real human again....it wasnt just me, he makes everyone switch to the strips, regardless of how they make you feel, which i feel is wrong....if your using on them, yes definitely put the high risk people on suboxone, but the ones that are only using them correctly as evidence by clean screens, help the patients out whether it be financially or from side effects...is my opinion....thanks again...i pray i get to feeling better....
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Unread 12-02-2010, 06:30 PM   #4
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Stay positive and try and get thru this. I would think that is it was sensitivity to the Naloxone, it wouldn't cause you to constantly feel like that, but I could be wrong. I would say maybe try and talk to him one more time IF you feel like it might help. The fact that he's saying he doesn't care how it makes you feel makes me wanna say RUN! Try spitting out the saliva tho, and hopefully that'll at least help some until you are able to hopefully find someone to put you on the -tex. Have you always had the bad feeling while on the Sub, or just on the strips or just started? Sorry if you've already answered that in your post.

You have to stay strong. The mind is a very powerful thing, and it may be a lot of the reason why you're feeling like going back out in your active addiction. Maybe like you wanna show that Dr just how bad it is. It's not worth it! You have come so far, and you've I'm sure been thru hell, so don't go back out there. Maybe look into taking some vitamins like B-12 or somethin to help you with energy? Talk with your pharmacist and see if they can reccomend something that could maybe help with your symptoms in the mean time?

Are you on any depression meds? Do you see a therapist or a psych?

Start looking into another doctor if you know that your current one isn't going to help you with this? Oh, also...some people have said with the strips, they feel like it's a better absorbtion rate and have had to reduce their dose...do you think this could possibly be some of the problems? If you're so tired and stuff like that? Just another idea.

Please stay strong, and just start ASAP in finding a new doctor who can maybe help you better! Please post any more ?'s you may have, or even just if you need to talk about the way you're feeling to get it out there!

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Unread 12-02-2010, 08:39 PM   #5
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there really is nothing to spit out with the strips, no i didnt feel bad like this with the subutex, Im sure its just a sensitivity, but geez the cost too is ridiculous, and im fighting with unemployment right now and without insurance, but im trying to manage, Im going to keep taking these strips till I go back to see him, in 2 weeks and pray they will change how i feel, I prefer these strips if they wouldnt make me feel so bad, it has to be the naloxone, that is the only difference in the 2 I know. they are doing me the same way my birthcontrol used to, lol...its not an allergy its just a side effect, but geeoh its miserable....my body always has been sensitive to like colors of pills, say the hydrocodone 10's now the green are 10's too but they do me different than the blue 10's, and only difference is the color and the tylenol in the green in more, its weird....but of course I have ADHD and alot of things work backwards on me....thanks for the support and replies....I appreciate them

oh to answer ur ? no i didnt start feeling bad just on the strips, it started back when i 1st started there he put me on suboxone pills, than after 2 weeks or so, cant really remember but wasnt very long after i started suboxone, I started having really bad headaches tiredness, edgy, and I mentioned it to him, see i just thought it was where all the oxys and things were leaving my body, w/d like, but he put me on subutex than, and id never heard of them, but know that its like taking 2 totally different medications for me....seriously....oh well hopefully i will get thru this....thanks again...
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Unread 12-03-2010, 04:09 AM   #6
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I did call the needy meds program and talked to a really nice lady there named Bridgett and she faxed an application over to my doctors office, she said that if I qualify that I would get help with my medication for up to a yr, but Im hoping to be weined off before a year is up....thanks, I love this forum, everyone here has been so helpful and informative...also I did the naabt.org, I think its called, anyways its the patient/physician match up, and Ive already received several emails from physicians that could possibly help with being little more understanding......I feel I could benefit from the counseling aspect of it too, that is something my physician doesnt do either...
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Unread 12-03-2010, 06:28 AM   #7
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Hi aprilflower123, that's great that you've heard back from doctors already via the matching system. I posted this recently to someone else looking for a doctor:

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Hi boriley, welcome! Have you seen this thread on different ways to find a Suboxone doctor? http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vb...ad.php?t=21259

Hopefully there's a couple avenues you haven't tried yet so you will find one quickly.
Other ways are calling you local hospitals to see if they can refer you. Do you have insurance? You might be able to ask them to help. If you're on good terms with a pharmacist, s/he may be able to let you know which doctors are prescribing. Lastly, go through the phone book and call addiction specialists and see if you can get a referral. Not all doctors who are able to prescribe are publicly listed, so you may get lucky that way.
Just some more avenues to pursue.

Hopefully you'll have some good news today!

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Unread 12-03-2010, 04:44 PM   #8
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i dont know where you live in kentucky but there are several good drs in paris ky, you may want to look them up. i dont know what they prescribe though
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Unread 12-05-2010, 08:21 PM   #9
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Hi aprilflower123, that's great that you've heard back from doctors already via the matching system. I posted this recently to someone else looking for a doctor:



Just some more avenues to pursue.

Hopefully you'll have some good news today!

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thank you so much, yeah I actually thought of that, about the pharmacist to see what physicians are prescribing subutex, but I wasnt sure if they would tell me or not....it was a thought though. I think I will call this week, theres 2 that seems understanding with the patient/physican match up, they are quiet a ways to drive but it would be worth it I believe, and I would save 380mt just in the price difference of the meds, so I could afford to drive there, lol....thanks, again.
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Unread 12-07-2010, 06:55 AM   #10
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Hi aprilflower123, have you had any luck in your search?

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Unread 12-07-2010, 04:28 PM   #11
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Thank you Nancy, I will be calling one back tonight after 600pm, he is only in on tuesdays after 6pm and all day wednesday and thursday....he had asked me to see an addiction specialist prior to treating a nonpregnant woman with subutex and gave me the phone number of one and said to contact his office back after that evaluation...well yesterday I call the addiction specialist to request the evaluation and the secretary there didnt know what kind of evaluation he was asking for...she said all they do there is screening for their clinic to see if you qualify for THEIR suboxone tx ctr, not for others, she said she didnt know what he was asking when he said an evaluation...so Im having to wait till this afternoon to call this doctor to ask exactly what kind of evaluation he was wanting....so im hoping its a plus....seems to me though he would have been more specific with what evaluation he was wantin in the email so that I could have been more specific with her. I tell you what, this friday will be 2 weeks on the suboxone film and they just arent gonna work for me, Im cant go around so edgy like this, dont know why I cant just be normal! I cant even give my poor dog a good word...this tiredness and nodding off, just is not normal, and I know its not....I even thought well maybe those strips might be too strong or stronger than the pills so i tried just lowering the dose myself, still no change....Im just doing alot of praying for my sobriety, maybe something will change. Thanks again for all your help...will let you know how tonight goes after 6pm and what the doctor says ok....thx again, tee
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Unread 12-07-2010, 07:47 PM   #12
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aI noticed the strips felt stronger than the pills. Think they absorb better. I just cut off a piece piece the size of my pinky nail and it works and no nodding. Hope thius helps
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Many people found that the strips seemed to have a better absorbtion rate and many were able to reduce their dose!
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Unread 12-10-2010, 06:59 AM   #14
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Hi aprilflower123, did you find anything more out about the evaluation?

As for reducing your dose, it can take a couple of days or more to notice a reduction, that might be something to think about. But hopefully, since the Subutex worked before, this new doctor will help you out by prescribing it again.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Yes, we were just talking about this at my last suboxone group at Quapaw House in Hot Springs, AR.
People do seem to feel there is a better absorption rate with Suboxone. It would make sense as the Subutex is full of fillers.

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Unread 12-13-2010, 01:43 AM   #16
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Hi aprilflower123, did you find anything more out about the evaluation?

As for reducing your dose, it can take a couple of days or more to notice a reduction, that might be something to think about. But hopefully, since the Subutex worked before, this new doctor will help you out by prescribing it again.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

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thank you Nancy...you are so nice yes, I have appt with the actual addiction specialist(MD) this tuesday at 11am. I only had a screening with a CDAC(certified drug and alcohol counselor) the other day, and she told me that I would have to see the actual physician for the evaluation-what the physician that contacted me from NAABT(physician matchup)wanted. I tell you its been so hard not to relapse, Ive been doing a whole lot of praying, but Im gonna have to stop these strips, I basically feel like SHIT, honestly, everyday!....Its all I can do is to get up outta the bed everyday, than my normal strip(along with 2 motrin to take the fever away-gonna eat my stomach up with so much motrin)-everytime I take one of the suboxone strips about 10mins or so I get all flushed and hot like running a fever...this is my 3rd week of being on suboxone strips and its miserable....at certain times here lately, but not with everydose Ive felt like withdrawal syptoms right after I take one, it last for less than 45mins but its miserable, have noticed that recently, last 2 days now...and I DO NOT TAKE ANY MEDICATION other than my suboxone....I have pretty much made my mind up that if they dont offer me some assistance with this that Im thinking about some inpatient detox, Ive got to do something, my life is in shammbles right now...Im so edgy and grrrr feeling, I just dont feel normal....I was reading about the sideeffects of suboxone/naloxone and your not supposed to take if you have know heart disease or irregular rhythms, that kinda scares me because I had rheumatic fever as a child and have heart murmur(irregular rhythm) and must have antibiotics before any procedures done(invasive), that is what might be causing the flush/fever(might be causing my blood pressure to go up or something), the headaches are not as bad as before, but do still have especially when I felt like I was having the withdrawals(restless arms and legs, thrashing of my legs tenseness, like your skins crawling) those were for short period maybe 45 mins than passed but the edgy feeling is all day long....I know that sounds crazy but for anyone that has went thru withdrawals they know exactly what im talking about....dont you? I dont know but i do know that something isnt right and I feel that after tuesday, if I can hold out 2more days, than Im not gonna take anymore suboxone, regardless of the answer he gives me....I just wanna feel "half way normal" again....and Im not gonna pay out the buttocks for something that is supposed to be helping me recover but is making me worse, there shouldnt be any type of feeling from those, as I said the subutex, it dont make you get high, it makes me feel normal and at least can get up and do my daily activities that I need to do, and live a normal life, rather than make it from the bed to the couch, dont want to go anywhere, dont want to do anything, havent really had an appetite here lately either, sleeping alot...its just not me...and I dont understand how a doctor can be so stupid as if something was working for someone to put them on something else....that would be like a diabetic that was on a medication that was keeping their blood sugar within normal range than all of sudden put them on another medication of same name that may contain little extra insulin, than their blood sugar bottoms out....just doesnt make any sense to me....it dont have to be subutex but I tell you its not gonna be suboxone anymore...I like the taste of the strip and the ease of melting and wished that they would work for me because the subutex is the nasties tasting thing ever its like dissolving an aspirin in ur mouth, but im not gonna live like this and pay that much money to feel worse...sorry but not gonna do it....3weeks of misery is long enough, I tried them again and its the same old bad sensitivity, thinking the strips might possibly be different....not! Ive even cut back on my caffeine and cigarettes thinking may be could help.....hes gotta help me tuesday or Im afraid its not gonna be pretty...it was so tempting the other night when I felt like I was going thru withdrawal symptoms to want to go "get my DOC" and see that shouldnt even cross my mind, or is not supposed to make me crave my DOC but oh yes those do, but I didnt, I paced the floors till it passed....please pray for me for those of you that believe in prayer, I surely do need it, Im a "hot mess" right now.....grrrrrrr, lol PS: I cant afford to lose anymore weight either Im down to 125 and Im 5ft 7" and Im having to make myself eat....thank you all for being so kind, and may God richly bless each and everyone of you....as Joyce Meyer says "God will give you double for your trouble and when one door closes, he will open up a bigger and better door", I pray I get some relief soon! as old saying "im kicking but not raising much dust"....
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Unread 12-13-2010, 08:44 AM   #17
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Hi aprilflower123, I'm glad you have that appointment tomorrow morning. Good idea on not taking the strips today - the halflife is so long (around 37 hours) that you probably won't feel any withdrawals as it's built up in your system.

Some doctors just won't prescribe -tex or generic -tex because of the lack of the naloxone. It's not right, especially when there is a reaction to the naloxone, and if the brand name Suboxone is cost prohibitive.

I really hope that this new doctor understands and gives you a prescription for -tex. Hang in there. Just one more day. You're doing great by not giving into to your former DOC cravings. You can do this!!

Fingers crossed. Keep us posted.

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Hi aprilflower123, I'm glad you have that appointment tomorrow morning. Good idea on not taking the strips today - the halflife is so long (around 37 hours) that you probably won't feel any withdrawals as it's built up in your system.

Some doctors just won't prescribe -tex or generic -tex because of the lack of the naloxone. It's not right, especially when there is a reaction to the naloxone, and if the brand name Suboxone is cost prohibitive.

I really hope that this new doctor understands and gives you a prescription for -tex. Hang in there. Just one more day. You're doing great by not giving into to your former DOC cravings. You can do this!!

Fingers crossed. Keep us posted.

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ty Nancy and as always your kind words really mean alot to me ....well, we have 8-10" of snow here today and expecting another 4" tonight, I hope it passes us by(the extra 4") so that I can go there tomorrow morning at 11am....thought maybe I would call 1st just to see if they will even be in the office because the roads have been so bad here and even the court houses have been closed here today and for tomorrow. I will keep you all informed, ok.....thanks again, Tee
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Hi Tee, that's a good idea calling tomorrow just in case they're closed or running late.

Drive safely and I'm keeping my fingers crossed everything goes well.
Let us know when you have time.

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didnt go well Nancy, the counselor thinks I should stay on the suboxone, because HE has a program too for 5 yrs and has NEVER HAD TO USE SUBUTEX, that was his response to that...He thinks I wouldnt on the suboxone long enough the 1st time before switching to subutex enough to get the "withdrawals" out of my system, he thinks its just withdrawals still and they will subside...I said "just how long does withdrawals last, he said seen some patients last 6-8 weeks...I told him that Im sure it was not withdrawals because I was on suboxone longer than that before switching....but he said he wanted me to go to this doctor that recommended him and "try longer", haha...why? whats the point? if its not gonna work the first time, its not gonna work the 2nd time...im almost sure that it was more like 3-4 mts i was on suboxone before switching....thats yesterday, today is new day and Im gonna contact one of the others that contacted me from the matchup...why would I drive an extra 1hr 45mins to see the guy he recommended that recommended him, only to be right where im at already and my doctor is 10mins away, how dumb is that???...Ive never been so freaking aggravated in all my life....I told him I WILL NOT CONTINUE TO PAY THAT PRICE(because I dont have insurance) for treatment that makes me feel like shit, sorry to cuss but thats how pissed I am right now....Oh he didnt doubt I am sensitive but because he has "successfully treated all his patients with suboxone only and never a 1 with subutex" than hes not gonna recommend it for another physician to give to a patient....now that is how he explained it to me....I was so mad when I left there I didnt even stop by the window to see if I owed them anything....I tell you what im gonna do, I can get a script of loracets for 32.00 without insurance and I may as well go back to using.....now that is what point im at right now with this suboxone....I ask the counselor, "why if something is working for someone and they have PROVED they are not abusing it(pill counts/drugscreens) why in the heck would you change them back to something that knowingly didnt work???? I said "thats like a diabetic having high blood sugar, you put them on a insulin and its working, than all because REPS come in offer you something NEW(like suboxone films) and you switch the "otherwise doing fine patient" to the same old insulin they were on but its in a different form, and ur back to square1 with the blood sugar??? right?? also what is with the "trying to help patients" anymore about the cost of SAME 2 MEDS??? if he wouldve try get me pay for his nonsense bullshit he told me, I was gonna say" sorry I may have been able to pay you if I couldve got the CHEAPER MED but NO NOW I GOTTA GO PAY HIGH DOLLAR FOR THE ONE THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE CRAP, thanks to you so theres where ur counseling fee is going, to the pharmacy, and you can kiss my behind!....Im just tired, Ive had enough, its the whole "eastern ky" reputation that ruins it for everyone because of the addiction problem and people coming in using on the subutex that ruin it for everyone...now thats my theory...because when i first signed on, was reading about a girl having headaches wanting to ask about subutex....think you commented on hers, Nancy, than the next quote "oh I didnt have to name it, he switced me because of no insurance" see its so simple for some CARING doctors but hard for the bird head ones.....Bet she dont live in KY, does she? Oh well Im about ready to just throw in the towel on the WHOLE SUBOXONE FILM AND TREATMENT PROGRAM ALL TOGETHER!
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Hi Tee, I'm sorry that you wasted all that time to listen to a counselor give you medical advice. I wish you had been able to talk with the doctor. Do you think there is any way you can call and speak with this doctor directly? That just doesn't seem fair for the counselor to be deciding what medication you should be on!

If you want, let me know what zip code you're in and I'll make some calls around too and see if I can find anything. Are you within any reasonable distance of another state that you could try?

Yes, I wish you had the same luck yesterday that lilmiss1987 had. I'm not sure what state she's in, but she found a good doctor.

Don't give up. Keep making calls and I will too if you'd like.

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that was the doctor I spoke with yesterday...I done the screening last week and that was a counselor.....the doctor(addiction specialist) is the one told me that....see what it is, this doctor that contacted me and said I need to see an addiction specialist 1st before treating a non-prego woman with subutex...but the addiction specialist also has a suboxone treatment that he does....and maybe that doctor that contacted me thru NAABT may be new or something, Im not sure, but he wanted me to see the addiction specialist to be evaluated 1st and the addictions specialist MD is the one I seen tuesday that gave me the bad news....My zip is 41822 but Im willing to go about anywheres in kentucky... I really do appreciate your help...Im going to my treatment center today and Im going to ask the nurse to see how long I was on the suboxone prior before he switched me to subutex the 1st time? I attended for almost a year when i first started and than quit this past may, started back in november and the nurse called in subutex for 2 weeks, than I seen the doctor and now been back on suboxone strips for 3 weeks now....I cant tell a decrease in the "sensitivity"/edgyness, flushness, feeling like crap yet...and also if, like he said that those were normal withdrawals I was going thru, why didnt I feel those the 1st 2 weeks when she started me back on subutex, but did as soon as was switched to suboxone....that proves that if it was the buprenorphine causing it than I would have had those with the subutex....Im just stressed and so aggravated with the whole system, right now....that is why I didnt say anything when I first started back over a year ok, I thought well maybe those "awful sideeffects" are just the oxy's/hydros getting out of my system, but when they didnt subside I knew it was more than just that.....oh well, Im just sick of them making it seem as if Im lying about how I feel....I was willing to give those strips a try, and Im willing to wait, Ive been more than patient enough I feel like....I just need prayer right now, that is what I need more than anything....please everyone pray for me and my sobriety....its so hard and im struggling really bad with it right now....I know the Lord will not put on me more than I can bear, but it sure feels like its a heavy load.....Im still going to hang in there, but I feel like im hanging by a thread....34 days today clean(off of opiates)....thank you Nancy and if you can do anything with the "kentucky" or even within 200miles of that zip, Im willing to travel, because if I save on the medication and for the visit, I can reinvest it into the gas for the extra miles......Just email me, hun...thank you and may GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE OF U!....Tee
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when I said "anywheres in kentucky" I am also willing to travel to surrounding states nearby zipcode 41822.....Im going to be contacting knoxville, tennessee doctor (121 miles) that I spoke to the secretary last week and they are 300 induction and 250 mth....I paid 500 induction and 400 mth right now....I figure the 150mt visit I will save and the 80(week)= 320 more mth save on the medicine if switched, totaling $470.00 mth savings- that it would be worth driving that far, to get better and save money.....also I got denied my unemployment this morning and without insurance that is hard to swing.....praying that I will have good news there, but doesnt hurt to search around incase not.....thanks again, Tee
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Hi Tee, I'll make some calls for you this this afternoon and tomorrow morning and let you know what I find out. Fingers crossed for good news.

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thank you so much Nancy, I really do GREATLY appreciate you so much ....Its nice to have someone that understands and is willing to help.....
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Hi aprilflower123, I made a bunch of calls today and no luck. I'll try more on Monday. People seem to get angry when 'Subutex' is mentioned! Yikes.

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yeah I know, that is ok hun, thank you for trying, Nancy, I feel that the NAABT patient matchup will help with this, I hope, the addiction specialist said that he could reevaluate as time passes if needed but that I should really try to see if these are just withdrawal symptoms, working on 4th week of suboxone now..Im sitting here now with the worst busting headache, sheeeww...I made the appt anyways for the 28th with this new doctor, Im hoping maybe that these feelings will subside, Im holding on.....I did ask her today to look in my chart and see how long I was on the suboxone b4 he switched me to subutex and it was 3 and 1/2 mths, so I doubt these same symptoms were any withdrawals...but we shall see....everyday it seems just a chore to get out of the bed....my house is in shambles and I just dont seem to have the drive to do anything, so dad blessed moody, i cant even give my dog a good word,....Im trying to stop taking motrin everytime I take a suboxone strip....I thought may I should have just went for detox instead....I really dont know at this point....if i had even a lil kick in my step I might would believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel....Ive just been debating today of whether I even want to go to this new doctor or not....it is 150 on the mth cheaper but it is 1hr 45min farther than the one im in now....or if I should go to the one that is in another state, 2hrs 56mins away that sent me an email as well....I just dont know at this point but I do know one thing, somethings gotta give....It really makes me made because of the state in which I live people are using and abusing subutex and that is why it hurts the rest of us...I feel that for those that have the true sensitivities that they can control it and maybe have like a clinic where they dose you and watch you take it, kinda like the way they do down here at the methadone clinic....that way people cant abuse it if they are not able to take it home with them....maybe that would be good idea for subutex clinic to open and screen to make sure that people have true sensitivity....oh yeah when I went to see that addiction specialist, my temp was 100.9 and she said "you're running little bit of a fever"...I said "yeah I know, I just took one of my suboxone strips about 20mins ago and they always do that to me" and she goes "really, yeah ive heard of it making ppl sweat", now this is about 15 degrees outside that day and I just walked into the office there, now come on, I wouldnt sweating, lol....I said "no, they dont make me sweat, just feels like blood rushes to my face and it gets all flushed and feels hot, but I dont sweat"...I just hat e to keep explaining myself....please pray for me, that is all I need right now is prayer...I dont have anything to do tomorrow so Im gonna try to not take any suboxone and try toughing it for few days...sure dont think id feel anyworse other than maybe some creepy crawlies....my ears even burning....miserable miserable miserable...im going to bed...im gonna flush them strips in the morning than i wont have to worry about feeling this way....its a shame that I paid 247 today for 21 strips to feel bad...how dumb is that? Probably could have bought some nice things for christmas with that money and made myself happier.....wish i knew what happy felt like again.....oh well, goodnight all....
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Hi aprilflower123, did you have any luck? I haven't yet. I'll make more calls today though. I didn't have a lot of time yesterday, but did make a dozen or so. Hopefully we'll find someone soon!

How did you do not taking any Suboxone?

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thanks Nancy, I had some luck today...I noticed I hadnt been receiving any more Pt/physician matchups and so I renewed my application....I did however the other day make the appt with the physician that was for tues, the one that referred me to the addiction specialist(he told me thought it was just withdrawals I was still experiencing) well, I was supposed to go see him tues dec 28th, just because the office visits are cheaper but he still was going to be leaving me on the suboxone....well I got a email last night from pt/physician matchup and I went there today and he said for me to try the suboxone for 28 more days and if I still was having those symptoms when i come back he would switch me to the subutex....he said sounds like to him I was having sensitivity to the naloxone, but that the "laws" have gotten so strict and that people were abusing other meds on the subutex and having dirty screens that he would need to establish with me a chart that he would have some verification, such as clean screens, med counts, things like that 1st before he could switch for the sake of the chart, I guess and to build my trust, I guess....geez, I didnt realize how hard it is and how "dead set" against subutex that they are around here....there is some that ruin it for others and that just isnt right....so guess Im gonna keep on for 28more days now....well I didnt make it with the "not taking suboxone"....I kinda did till that evening when it come time to go to bed....but really didnt feel "normal" just like i was going thru the motions or something....I was running a fever as well today there...told him I have been usually taking motrin with every suboxone I take...also he switched me off the film and wrote for the suboxone pills, said he thought those were little cheaper and NO they are not cheaper, (the film is cheaper)...I found out today...called cvs they said $9 pill....I need to print me one of those discount cards out. I go back Jan 20th...so we shall see...just wished I could feel "half way normal" with tomorrow being our christmas dinner and all...I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A **VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS**, thanks again Nancy for helping and making the phone calls, I really do appreciate it....
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Hi aprilflower123, I'm sorry you have to stick with the Suboxone for another month. But it's really encouraging that the doctor is acknowledging the sensitivity to the naloxone. One thing to try, if you didn't before, is to not swallow anything after the pill is dissolved - spit it out. A little inconvenient, but it has helped others who were hypersensitive to the naloxone. Before the generic Subutex, the Suboxone was much less expensive than Subutex, so cash payers found that they could stay on Suboxone just by doing the spitting. Maybe that will help for this month.

I hope your Christmas dinner was good yesterday and you have a great Christmas Day.

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My new doctor did switch me to subutex and i had been doing great for over a mnth now amost 2mts..i was looking for my appt card the other day, I knew i was supposed to go back either on march 3 or 4th, so i get on the internet to get the phone number and find that my physician has retired...im starting to freak out when i read this so i tried calling his office and sure enough no one answers...now ive been for the last 2 days searching for another doctor to go too...this doctor I had been seeing, when I told him the cost difference of subutex 3 dollars ea, as opposed to the suboxone film/tabs 7 dollars ea...he couldnt believe it and when i told him about the other dr saying "we're not concerned about cost her", he said, "well i am, they are the same damn thing"...talking about suboxone and subutex, with of course, I had to prove to have clean screens each time I come in. There isnt many doctors like him left in this world, but its the ppl that have abused and used other meds on the subutex is why that alot of physicians will not prescribe them...its strictly physician preference really. Now I signed back up for the patient physician match up again, because that is how I found him, or rather how he contacted me...I did call a physicians office from pikeville today that is 100 mt visit, after initial 480 induction...but had to be put on the waiting list...she couldnt really tell me how long it would be, so im gonna keep searching. Just when I thought I was getting on the right track, boom...hope all is well with everyone...including you Nancy, you have been such wonderful help and encouragement to me, I just want you to know how much i greatly appreciate it...I love this site, unlike other sites like topix-u cant really ask for help on there because you always get someone that "hasn't walked in an addicts shoes" and they just have to "chime in" with some smart remark and its very frustrating. Will everyone please say a prayer for me when you get time, Im fighting this addiction so hard and somedays I just feel like Im fighting a losing battle...the price was really good at this last dr I was going to as well, where I dont have insurance, the visits were 250mth as opposed to 400mth previously I was paying. Maybe something will come up for me before march 4,2011...I will keep looking...Im really wanting to be able to do a program that will detox and not do maintenance...I feel as if I dont want to be on these forever....take care thanks, Tee
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Hi aprilflower123, I can't believe your doctor just up and retired with no warning! That is not fair. Is the phone number disconnected or just no answer and no answering machine? How far is the office from you, is it possible to go over there and see what is going on? At least having another month's prescription would take some of the anxiety out of looking for a new doctor.

Also give the Here to Help people a call to see if they know of a doctor not listed publicly. 866-956-9204

The important thing, in my opinion, is to just find a doctor. Then once you're there, discuss how you're looking for your treatment to go. You might not want a doctor who will do a fast detox without regard for how you're feeling. You really want someone to work with you on YOUR goals. There are also people who just go to the doctor and have done their own tapering. But we can talk about that after you get this doctor situation figured out.

Keep us posted!!

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Hi aprilflower123, I can't believe your doctor just up and retired with no warning! That is not fair. Is the phone number disconnected or just no answer and no answering machine? How far is the office from you, is it possible to go over there and see what is going on? At least having another month's prescription would take some of the anxiety out of looking for a new doctor.

Also give the Here to Help people a call to see if they know of a doctor not listed publicly. 866-956-9204

The important thing, in my opinion, is to just find a doctor. Then once you're there, discuss how you're looking for your treatment to go. You might not want a doctor who will do a fast detox without regard for how you're feeling. You really want someone to work with you on YOUR goals. There are also people who just go to the doctor and have done their own tapering. But we can talk about that after you get this doctor situation figured out.

Keep us posted!!

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well the 2nd visit that I went to him there was a note on the door that stated he was retiring and that all patients have 30days to come pick up their medical records...well when i got to the window, the lady said he was still going to be seeing suboxone patients only, because he was also a pain management doctor too...she was telling me that he had a family medical emergency that was pressuring him to retire...the other lady in the back told me that his wife just found out she has cancer and had to have emergency surgery right after christmas, and she said she doesnt think she is doing too well. He is an older physician and by him retiring for the pain patients, I got a little scared thinking, "well probably wont be too long before he retires from all of it" so I starting thinking that maybe I should start looking into my other options before long. I have tried calling but there is just a phone ringing off the hook...also a friend of mine, whom he signed up as a new suboxone patient just this mth, told me that she went down there and there was a note on the door said "due to family emergency this office is permanently closed"...and no one was in there...I have renewed my application on naabt, because that is where I found him, so maybe I pray that I will be contacted by another...I called a place that is close, but they have a waiting list, but its 380 induction and 100mth after that...which is what i really need right now because where I dont have insurance any more. She couldnt tell me approximately how long the wait would be...but I got put on the list anyways. I was contacted by another in knoxville, tn..which is 3 1/2 hrs from here, but that is little farther than I would wanted to travel...so im just keeping my fingers crossed that someone will contact me...as i keep searching and making phone calls as well....take care, Tee
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Nancy, I know you get a chance to read more of the postings than I do, if you happen to hear of a physician that is in kentucky, virginia or tennessee that is prescribing subutex would you please let me know...I would greatly appreciate it...thanks
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Hi Tee, wow, that's really just a sad story around, with his wife being ill and then him leaving his patients in the lurch. Yikes.

I'll definitely post if I find something someone posted about a -tex doctor. I'll try to make some calls tomorrow and see if I can find anything. I saw you posted to Wayne and he posted back so I copied your post with your zipcode to Wayne's thread in case you didn't have a chance to get back to see his asking where you're at.

I hope you find something soon!! I'll post tomorrow after I make some calls.

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Hello Nancy and Tee,

So I'm up reading way to late into the night again on the site, but it's where I relax, relate and re-learn life(). I worked 13 hours today cleaning, my body feels so sore. Maybe an Epsom salt hot bath soaking in my near future....
Seems as if there are a few of us in this area, or region of the states, that have had in the past and present run into road blocks left and right to get affordable and dependable treatment. Although I admit I am to blame for some of the problems in my lengthly Dr. history since starting my treatment. I am so grateful though! When I think back to when I was in active addiction, out of control and desperate for help. I called the Dr.'s office I went to for 4 months every morning till I finally got an appt.. I wept in the yard on my knees that afternoon....what a wonderful memory. I had wept in gratitude and relief, more importantly a chance at being...when I think about it, I never would have believed then that life today for me was possible! It's truly amazing, even with this annoying Dr. issue. I also am without insurance. I had it for the 1st Dr. but never used it, only the prescription was fully covered then. My next 2 Dr.'s I paid for. Both had high cost 1st time visits even though I was already on the medication. The 3rd was, if I remember correct $600 my 1st, then $300 every appt. after. For a single mother with 2 girls to take care of without child support or any government assistance it can be tough in my mind to reconcile the cost. I want to put that money toward buying clothes for the kids, groceries, $225 electric bills.....stuff like that. In the end if I do not keep taking my medication and continue to take the baby steps I seem to only be capable of, it won't matter because I don't think I'm done with the mental and emotional elements to this treatment plan and it's success. I am looking forward to the grief counseling, (when it starts) and am going to try my hardest on my day off tomorrow to talk to a very charitable, educated and I think capable of dealing with my particular duel-diagnosis's. If I'm going to do like you all tell me to I decided I'd better hit it hard and get it done. Enough dilly-dallying around with fear ruining my progress. With the news of my brother I am even more determined to succeed at keeping my addiction in true remission, long term. Gosh, that feels so great to write and know! God is seeing me through this. I feel as though I'm curled up in his hands, protected. Good stuff....sometime I'll have to fill you in Nancy about the funny way I've become a part of this small community Church of Christ. I went just to please someone else and ended up in the last 4-5 months becoming my favorite parts of the week. I've always believed in God, not always the bible though. When they say, "It's the best book ever written.", they sure are correct. I would have never believed it.
Anyhow, I've rambled on and on...I was posting because I wanted to ask if on your hunt for this affordable Dr. that may prescribe Subutex, because I could afford generic, when you find them you could post the town they are in? I am having a tough time finding anything like that, but I'm sure with all of us trying we will come up with something soon. I have 1/2 a pill left and then I'm out. I thought about jumping off now but I fear all of this amazing change in my life could be put at risk since I've procrastinated the "hardest" parts. I guess looking at the bright side, I'm happy it's come to such a place that I really had to make a decision one way or the other.
Long post just to ask for the names of the towns if you find this ideal Dr. huh?
Love you Nancy, my eternal gratitude for all the many efforts you've put in to my journey. Nice to "meet" you Tee.
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Hi Alene, I sure will let you know also if I find anyone who is willing to prescribe the generic -tex. Wayne gave a link to his doctor in his thread, not sure what the distance is for you: http://www.buprenorphine-doctors.com...r.cfm?id=10341

I'm glad that you're enjoying church. Sounds like you have good support from people there also? Have you heard from your brother?

Hopefully I'll have something good to report later in the day as far as -tex doctors!

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Hi Tee, I just read in Wayne's thread that you have an appointment with a new doctor next Thursday! I'll keep my fingers crossed that prescribing you -tex is not an issue. It's just so hard to find a doctor who will prescribe it. When I made calls, even when I said that the patient is allergic to the naloxone, the 'stock' answer was the doctor doesn't prescribe it to anyone. Just aggravating!

Please keep us posted!

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yes Nancy I do, and thank you for all your help, I thought I posted that on this one too, but apparently not..sorry about that, but yeah I called that place that had me on the waiting list, it was only 2 days before that i had called, well i read somewhere that alot of times if there is a waiting list and you are not a new patient to subs that they will alot of times try to get you in to prevent a relapse or a lapse in treatment...so as I called I told the lady that I was put on the waiting list 2 days prior and she said "oh yeah we got openings now" so Im like "great"...I didnt name subutex to the secretary, as I feel that is something I need to discuss with the physician not the appt girl...so yeah Im praying all turns out well...as the price for this place is the cheapest I have found by far...its 450 to start but 100mt after that. So with me not having a permanent job right now and no insurance to pay for the meds, that is definitely a plus...the Lord is so good...if it wouldn't for him I just don't know what I would do...May God Bless each and everyone of you! take care, tee
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Hi Tee, just checking in to see how your appointment went. Hope all is well.

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There is a Dr. Davis in Paris, KY that prescribed suboxone but he is not taking new patients at this time BUT does have a waiting list that you can get on. He also will bill insurance. I have found (like my Doctor) that a lot of them dont take private insurance but luckily it pays for my script. Good luck!
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thanks purrtykitty...yeah Im back in treatment with another physician, back on the suboxone for 1mth now and Ive lost 7lbs this past mth...she (my new doctor of 1mth, well 2mths now) was concerned about the weight loss from the first visit and i told her "im back to having the headaches again, nausea, unable to eat most of the time" she said "well we dont prescribe subutex here but im willing to give you a weining dose today till that could give you some time to find you another physician that may prescribe subutex"....I was like, "nah that is ok, I think I can do this"....but I miss DR Albert....he was such a caring and understanding doctor....yes of course he had to establish a chart for me, clean drug screens and all that before he would switch me to the subutex, but than he did switch me, but unfortunately he retired only 2mths afterwards of me being his patient....I just dont get it...oh well...I signed back up with NAABT patient/physician matchup again today...Ive gotta try find doctor that will see patients on Saturday or later evening appts dueto this new job Im about to get is M-F 7am-330pm shift...so we shall see.....any word Nancy of anyone knowing of MD close by? around? Im sorry I havent been on here in a while, I have been moving and the internet was not a priority of getting hooked up at the time....miss all of you all!....I really appreciate all the kind words and comments that were so helpful to me!....you really are a sweetheart and I cant thank you Nancy enough for all the calls and caring words/comments and all the help that you have given to me/for me....thanks again
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Unread 04-27-2011, 07:02 PM   #45
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Oh Tee, I can't believe that you're back to square one again! Is your zip code still the same - at least as a starting point - and I'll see if I can help out with some calls.

Did you try Wayne's doctor? Here's the link:
http://www.buprenorphine-doctors.com...r.cfm?id=10341

We know that he will prescribe -tex, I guess it would be a matter if he has openings and if it's feasible for you to get there.

Congrats on the new job! When do you start?

Wow, I still can't believe that doctor retired...

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Oh Tee, I can't believe that you're back to square one again! Is your zip code still the same - at least as a starting point - and I'll see if I can help out with some calls.

Did you try Wayne's doctor? Here's the link:
http://www.buprenorphine-doctors.com...r.cfm?id=10341

We know that he will prescribe -tex, I guess it would be a matter if he has openings and if it's feasible for you to get there.

Congrats on the new job! When do you start?

Wow, I still can't believe that doctor retired...

Nancy
Hello Nancy, I just went to my interview at 1pm today....they did "peer" interviews- where there were 9 other employees there that get to ask the questions...sheww I was nervous, but I think I did very well....she said she would be letting me know in 1-2 weeks...I think that i probably will get the job....it will be for the "heart" team, I have 10yrs experience in everything but hearts, but im willing to learn...I really hope I get it....thanks again...I didnt call his doctor yet, but I will do that in the morning...now the thing is going to be trying to find either a saturday or evening appointment doctor....geez, I may as well just quit, lol...no I renewed my NAABT patient/physician matchup again this afternoon, so that is how I found Dr Albert before, so maybe I may luck up again....Ive sure not been doing well this past 1 1/2 mth, the motrin is gonna eat my stomach up from having to take them with every suboxone...if i dont i have horrible headache....Ive lost 7lb in a mth...I only weigh 128lb now and im 5ft 7" so I cant afford to really lose much more, good puff of wind will blow me away....I forgot to look and see how far his doctor is from me...I will mapquest that and see....thanks again
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he is 212miles from ky, says 3hrs 42mins away....geez...I still may call him tomorrow....I also was told by a friend that was contacted by patient physician matchup of a doctor in NC that accepts patients on saturdays, but that is like 5hrs away....shoot!
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Hi Tee, have you had any luck? Let me know when you can.

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Hi Tee, have you had any luck? Let me know when you can.

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Hi Nancy, sorry it took me a while to get back to you, but yeah I think I actually have found some luck...I get to go next wednesday...I will let you know how it goes ok...a friend of mine and I are going...it is out of state but it will be worth it im sure....I appreciate you asking, that is nice of you, thanks ....also, I didnt get that one job, but I have started another job doing residential care, my mother and brother also work for this company...I finished up my orientation yesterday...I go back this thursday and get to start shadowing after my tb skin test is read....I think im gonna like this new job...its not what I was used to doing (surgical tech in surgery) but its similar to what I done years ago(LPN)...Ive had a migraine most of the day today...Ive had 3 excederin already and its one of them looks like im gonna have to sleep it off....grrrrr...I hopefully will be back on track next week...I just get so frustrated at the doctors that have had like 8hrs of training to prescribe suboxone...they dont take the time to research what other patients are saying about the side effects, nor do they care, or they would. I think most are there just to feel their pockets with money!....I would personally if I was a suboxone doctor try to at least read some forums, see what others are having to say and try to help the patient in any way I could....I, personally have researched other forums just to see, what might be causing or if the suboxone was causing my headaches/edgyness....although I already know and from reading Im not the only one, actually there are quiet a few similar stories like mine from other forums...I personally think its not fair that proven that you dont abuse your medication after being with a physician for a while, why he/she cant write the subutex? its all because they dont want to!...there is NO such law says they cant!...if doctor can write one, he can write the other...if patients come in dirty screen, cut them off, not everyone!...oh well, Ive vamped enough, its strange that I dont have cravings really on the suboxone but when I get these headaches it takes everything that is in me not to want to use, but I havent so that is a plus!...maybe after next wednesday, not tomorrow, I may be in better mood....I get so ill sometimes I cant stand myself...grrr...Please everyone that believes in prayer, keep praying for me, I really need it....I feel like im fighting a losing battle right sometimes...but I know that the Lord will never put on me more than I can bear, but it sure feels that way sometimes.....I will keep u posted how it goes next week...keep ur fingers crossed for me! please...may God bless each of you!
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Unread 06-01-2011, 02:23 PM   #50
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Hi Tee, I'm with you about doctors being closed minded to prescribing -tex. Especially to patients who they know are allergic to the naloxone and the patients who can't afford the brandname. We've seen many people here who had adverse reactions to the naloxone, so it's not something that is unheard of - you're so right - if they would read a little, they would see that. Also, some doctors are unreasonably scared of the DEA. The DEA cannot tell a doctor what medication to prescribe! If the doctor keeps proper records, there is nothing to fear. Oh, don't get me started... grrr

In any event, I hope you like your new job and I HOPE HOPE HOPE that this new doctor is not reluctant about prescribing -tex to the patients who need it.

I look forward to hearing how it goes next week. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it works out.

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