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A.S. ADMIN
07-28-2005, 02:19 PM
How much are pharmacies charging for 8mg and 2mg. Suboxone / Subutex? Also what does your doctor charge for induction and follow-up visits?

Jake
08-01-2005, 08:19 PM
I paid about $10 each for the 8mg. at CVS in RI
Jake

gwen
08-02-2005, 04:28 PM
that's what i paid here in massachusetts.
gwen

dimples
08-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Hello, here in New Jersey I use Walgreens phamacy and I pay $6 for 8mg suboxone and $8 for 2mg pills but, the larger the quanity the lower the unit price.

Take Care, Jennifer

Marnie
08-13-2005, 12:50 AM
I just paid $9 for 8mg in Connecticut.

Bill Green
08-14-2005, 04:32 AM
$8 for 8mg at CVS Manchester CT and $6 for 2mg. Much better to cut the 8mg. into quarters or halves.
BG

octa
09-07-2005, 12:43 PM
I paid about $7 each for the 8mg.(I Lived In Indonesia) and now I useing methadoneMaintenance Treatment

cho55cho
09-10-2005, 02:20 PM
I am curious. Are your insurance companies paying for the Buprenorphine pills?

Jake
09-10-2005, 02:26 PM
according to the recent wall Street Journal article in the news section of this site, 85% of private insurers cover it, but thta many cover any counseling, or other related treatment.
Jake

UriahSky
10-19-2005, 08:39 PM
I pay $4.00 for a 8mg pill. And that is too much. Does anyone know when the patent runs out? I Spend about $300.00 a month on this stuff including doctor visits. I think they are taking advantage of us. Hopefully a generic will come out sometime and bring the price down.

TIM
10-19-2005, 10:01 PM
Suboxone is protected until 2010, no generic until then.

Mike
10-20-2005, 10:54 AM
$4 for a life -saving medicine...That's the best deal I ever got! I'd pay that everyday for the rest of my life if it keeps me out of the horror or addiction.

jjking
10-20-2005, 12:28 PM
The price for my Suboxone is $477.00 for 90 8 M.G. Tabs at Meijers, Luckily my insurance is covering it wich leaves me with a $20 copay.

Barb
10-20-2005, 11:13 PM
I pay 237 for 56 of them at the Medicine shoppe in west hartford ct. when it comes to buying less, they are like $6/each for 8mg

sarah
10-28-2005, 01:30 PM
I paid $8 for 8mg. they wanted $6 for 2mg. So my doctor just wrote it for 8mgs.

Bill Green
11-26-2005, 02:58 PM
I just went to the medicine shop in West hartford CT and paid $4.65 each for 8mg., tablets much better dewal then CVS.
BG

sara
12-06-2005, 09:31 AM
I pay 5 for 8mg

dodo
12-06-2005, 03:48 PM
If you guys have an Eckerd Drug around you they have the cheapest price for Suboxone. Also if the drugstore you go to says they do not cover the medicine with your insurance, call your insurance carrier and find out for yourself! This happened to me I was covered and the pharmacy said I wasn't. My copay is $10.00, I am fortuante and will be reinbursed for the past prescriptions.

purple
12-19-2005, 01:44 PM
I live in ny state.I have healthy ny ins. IT will cover suboxone for 6 months only Which happens to be up in jan. I pay a 6 dollar co-pay.
I will edit when i find out price w/no ins.

Phoenix
12-19-2005, 11:23 PM
When I got Tony's script, it cost me $59.98 (or thereabout) for 14 2mg tabs. CVS pharmacy
Judy

vadermask
12-27-2005, 08:48 AM
i live in ann arbor, mi


the first time i had my script filled at walgreens it was $179 for 60 of the 8mg's, they said my insurance would not cover it.

i went for a refill and it was $3, my insurance covered it that time..weird.

next time went in to get 30 2mg pills, cost was $79, insurance didn't cover it.

went to get 60 2mg's fill recently, $3 co-pay. sweet.

doctor wrote me a script for 14 the other day, and it was $10???
i go see my shrink tomorrow, and get a new script. i'll let you know what i paid for it.

peachez
12-27-2005, 04:00 PM
I am on medicaid in kansas and it is covered 100%. Although it took several weeks to get it approved and once they did, they approved it for a year

theatercat
01-01-2006, 01:18 AM
My 2 mg. subutex had to be ordered by my pharmacy and won't be in till the 2nd. My doc called me in one 8mg subutex for the weekend, 15 dollars. Its the rite-aid in the Pittsburgh area .

Debbie
01-02-2006, 01:01 PM
The 8mg are about $4 in Dallas. Fortunately, my insurance covers.

SavedBySub
01-05-2006, 04:53 AM
I get 15 of the 8mg pills and that lasts me about 2 months. I pay $85 for the 15 pills and the office visit. I get mine directly from my doctor in the office.

vadermask
01-05-2006, 08:04 AM
YES!!! I got my new script for 30 2mg and insurance covered it, $3.

Phoenix
01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Yesterday, I paid 212.99 for 42 8mg tabs.
Judy

Robyn
01-07-2006, 03:23 AM
My doctor charged me $900 for induction and $200 per visit after (first month x4), second month x2, third month on, I have to go monthly. This includes a 45 minute appointment and my labs (2 drug screens). He does not take insurance, but provides dx coded receipts.

My pharmacy card picks up the Suboxone at $20 per refill.

Janet T
01-07-2006, 10:28 PM
After making about 200 phone calls to find a doctor that accepted Medicare (most charged 300-500 for the first visit):

Nothing for the office visit, although I'll probably have a small co-pay. This is a doctor in Beverly Hill, where parking cost almost as much as heroin.

The prescription was $37 for 14 8mg. tabs ($2.64 per tablet). I've heard this is very inexpensive, and Monday I will ask the pharmacist if he wouldn't mind if I shared his name & number with anyone needing a reasonable place to purchase the Suboxone. Some Medicare part D providers actually cover the cost of this medication, although I'm still working on that (if anyone has any info. this I'd love to hear about it).


Hope this helps.

--JT

JRT
01-11-2006, 03:22 AM
First appointment was $250-perscribtion-$217 for 60-2mg

Lizzie

Texsub
01-14-2006, 09:17 PM
Induction visit in NJ was $400.00. Follow-up visits are $200.00. Insurance paid $208.30 for a 30 count 8mg bottle of Sub, or $6.94 per pill. It is uncertain if uninsured patients pay more.

sarah
01-24-2006, 04:20 AM
new place medicine shoppe $4.78 for 8mgs.

LINDALU03
01-24-2006, 04:31 AM
hi! im new here. just started 6 days ago and my doc visit was 10 for co-pay and the sub was 25.00 and thats with insurance. it was a 120 -8mgs and the reciept was around 700.00 yes i said 700.00!! thats not bad for 6.00 a pill is it! thats here in california (southern)

WdlwnMJP16
01-25-2006, 04:40 AM
HI i am new here.I have been on the sub 8mg for about 3 days.It is a lifesave no withdrawls or cravings.just allitle bit of drowsiness.I go to walgreens pharmacy which my insurance dose not cover and i paid 52$ For 8 8mg tablets.I paid 100 dolor for first visit to my doctor and 50 dollars for each additional visit

spanky
01-26-2006, 02:56 PM
I suppose I am blessed as my insurance from my job(which I almost lost due to PAWS had it not been for Bupe)pays most of the cost.I pay a co-pay of $15 for the office visits and $30 per month for 45 8mg pills..........SPANKY

jjking
02-02-2006, 02:35 PM
I live in Tn. and pay $200 for office visit a month and pay 5.30 for 8M.G. pill. Call the Suboxone hotline 1-877-SUBOXONE they just started presrcription assistance Feb. 1st. They will pay for your meds. and office visit.

Here in Tn. some doctors are chargeing up to 3200.00 bucks for intial visit. Is that crazy, sounds like there taking advantage of the new treatment. Most docs around here charge between 200 and 700 dollars for intial. Luckily i go every 3 monthes. I hate say it but it is was almost cheaper to stay on drugs. Id rather be broke and clean than strung out with a pocket of pills for sale...

bill
02-05-2006, 12:27 AM
3200.oo bucks thats insain. or people in TN must have a lot of money. i guess if thats what you need to do to get clean its still cheaper then speanding your money on drugs for the rest of your life i know i spent that much money on drugs in a weekend. sad it makes me to think something had that much of a hold on me.

joe911
02-07-2006, 01:30 AM
the cost for 50 of the 2mg Subutex tabs was $158.00 with Blue Cross. My insurance pays me back something like 80% of the cost of my medicines after I make my deductible and file the paperwork. So with the insurance "discount" I am paying $3.26 per pill. With this prescription and my regular meds this should get pretty close to my $300.00 deductible for the year so hopefully I will get some money back before I have to get another one filled.

bill
02-08-2006, 12:52 AM
30 2mg 238.95, docters cost 350.00, feeling good priceless lol

hi nancy my meds are free i just have to go to the hosptal pharmacy to pick them up. there putting me on 8mg pills on thersday. i was looking at the reciet from the 2mg pills and without insurance for 30 of them would be 238 dollers. plus im taking 12mg of suboxone a day so it will make it easery for me to desolve 1 1/2 pills instead of 6 pills and there not the best tasting things. by the way do the 8mg tast diffent. thanks agein NancyB

Sharon
02-12-2006, 08:08 PM
I am in Salt Lake City and I cant find a reg. doctor to help me.I have no insurance so I am paying the methadone clinic $50 a week for the written prescription and $82 a week for 14 8mg pills. Highway robbery!!!! The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and being a recovery addict I need a job and have no money and worry about next weeks script ya know? And the state offers no help and then wonders why we relapse so much...... I wont give up so easily though Im just considering cold turkey quit if I have no money.Anybody know how sick i will be off 8 mg for about 2 weeks Ive been on now?Appreciate advise???? Sharon

ktbaby
02-19-2006, 03:47 PM
Hi,I am new here but so glad I found it!! I am in tn, I pay 50.00 co-pay for 90 8mg tab. my insurance does cover them.(bcbs) I take 24mg a day now for 3 years. this med changed my whole life!! The first office visit was 400.00, then 80.00 a month.

hooked4life
02-24-2006, 03:19 AM
Portland Maine 112 2mgs cost $380, are there any programs available to help with the cost available through the drug company?

dodo
02-24-2006, 04:05 AM
hooked4life,
I posted this under a different topic awhile back:


I called the following number for the Suboxone Prescription Assistant Program, 877-SUBOXONE(can also call 877-782-6966, last digit is different with this number, same place though!) This is the information I received:

The girl I spoke to did not know what the requirements were to be eligible for this program. She told me though, in order to even see if you are elible, the process needs to go through your doctor. This plan covers medication only, not office visits, per the girl I spoke to. If you are interested in this, she said to call your doctor and give him the phone number. The doctor needs to speak with them and get the application process started. In my case, my prescription coverage plan pays for my suboxone, so I am not eligible. You need to be paying cash. What other requirements are taken into consideration I do not know BUT if any of you find out, I'm sure it would be appreciated if you would post. Good luck to anyone that goes for this!!!

NancyB
02-24-2006, 11:53 AM
hooked4life, Another thing to look into is asking your doctor to prescribe 8mg tablets. They're generally more cost-effective. You're paying $3.39 each, and some people who wrote in this thread are paying $4 to $10 for the 8's. So, in doing a little math here, if you paid, say, $6 for 8mg that would be $168 for the 224mgs. And just cut them to the dose you need. Hope that helps!
NancyB

stevemoo
02-25-2006, 02:59 AM
GWEN: at costco in saugus mass. they are about $5.50 a wack for the 8mg. I called around, everywhere is alot more

riospharmacy
02-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Rios Pharmacy in Morton PA carries them for a great price:
~ 5.40 per tablet for the 8mg and 3.20 per tablet for the 2mg
call them for a price: 610-543-1858
they also carry subutex if needed


quote:Originally posted by Jake

I paid about $10 each for the 8mg. at CVS in RI
Jake

dodo
02-27-2006, 01:01 PM
RiosPharmacy,
You may want to check BJ's in Morton also. Mine is paid by insurance but have been told they are cheaper than Squire Drugs in Springfield. So there is someone out there from my area! A few miles radius in fact!;)
Doris

heidi
02-27-2006, 02:52 PM
i pay a $25 insurance co-pay, no matter the amount (right now I only get a week at a time). it's much better than the $15 per 8mg i was paying on the street!

easc
03-06-2006, 11:57 PM
About $6.00 per 8 mg pill here in central California.Oddly enough,the 2mg tabs cost MORE than TWICE the amount of the 8mg tabs!!Induction was $350.00 followed by 1x per week visits at $85.00 for 4 weeks.Visits will be 1x per month thereafter at $85.00 per visit.

buzzbuzzard
03-07-2006, 01:43 AM
In San Francisco a clinic wants $1,100 for the induction, $275 for the initial visit (which was today), $100 for a monthly medical checkup, and $300 a month for weekly therapy (required). I don't know how much the actual medicine will be yet. I'm sure it could be cheaper but I don't feel like I have much choice, since it took me forever to find a slot in the first place. Induction is supposed to be within the next week; I hope it happens soon.

beginagain
03-07-2006, 04:51 PM
North Georgia $4.83 per 2mg Subtex dose - I am on a very low daily dose. The treatment cost me $500.00 which covers the induction, lab work, EKG, physical, medical history and follow-up visits for 1 month. After that he expects to take me off the medication but if I need to be on it longer or my taper lasts longer than planned I will pay a regular office visit charge when I see him. Don't know how much that is yet.

I felt like the $500 was very reasonable especially since the lab, physical, EKG and all the one on one time I spend with the doctor is covered in that price. He spent alot of time doing education and nutritional/supplement counseling as well.

bjmohn
03-07-2006, 05:15 PM
I payed $7 a pill in Virginia without insurance. I think it's worth it for me but I have several "friends" who can't afford this, though they have worse addictions, and probably more urgent desires to quit, than me. One woman in particular who I know (the middle- woman who provided me with my main heroin connection) is my Mom's age- almost 60- and has been struggling with her addiction for about 30 years now after immigrating here from Columbia, having a child, and divorcing her husband. I met her while working at a restauraunt in D.C. (she still waitresses there) and she immediately became a friend and parental figure to me in the disfunctional sense I am used to. It was hard for me to break off contact with her. I would like to help her. She of course, has no insurance, and sometimes has to ask her daughter or relatives back home for help to pay for rent and groceries.
She helped to raise the man who became her dealer, and kept track of his finances while he was in jail, so she pays about $300 a month to support her habit, as near as I can figure. She has a genuinely good heart. She is the most religiously faithful person I know. She wants desperately but is also stubbornly self- reliant and scared to lose her job in order to quit. She cannot miss rent out of repect for her roommate from El Salvador who cleans hotels to support three children and their errant father. Methadone clinics only put her in touch with more dealers and hustlers and obviously haven't helped to control her mentally addictive tendencies. My question is two- fold, but I think it is important: 1.How could she afford this treatment which has worked wonders for my mental strength in fighting not only a heroin addiction but also my desire return to the gauntlet of other drugs between which I have bounced back and forth over the past 5 years? Does anyone know of any free/ payed studies being offered in the D.C. area for Suboxone?
2 More importantly, how can I convince her that the expense nis worth it... that Suboxone will possibly help her for good? How can we help people who have almost given up hope of ever living through their addiction- do we just forget about them and recommend a temporary Meth fix? Also, does anyone have any stats one how heroin affects the body's absorption of vitamins and minerals? I think I may be able to persuade her, at least, that she is wasting her money on the rainbow of expensive "Whole Foods" vitamins and food she buys, pretending to buy a health nut.

NancyB
03-07-2006, 05:36 PM
bjmohn, I'm glad you're doing well!
Here's a start to answer your first question.

-From Doris's Topic 'Suboxone Prescription Assistance Program'
http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=412

All,

I called the following number for the Suboxone Prescription Assistant Program, 877-SUBOXONE(can also call 877-782-6966, last digit is different with this number, same place though!) This is the information I received:

The girl I spoke to did not know what the requirements were to be eligible for this program. She told me though, in order to even see if you are elible, the process needs to go through your doctor. This plan covers medication only, not office visits, per the girl I spoke to. If you are interested in this, she said to call your doctor and give him the phone number. The doctor needs to speak with them and get the application process started. In my case, my prescription coverage plan pays for my suboxone, so I am not eligible. You need to be paying cash. What other requirements are taken into consideration I do not know BUT if any of you find out, I'm sure it would be appreciated if you would post. Good luck to anyone that goes for this!!!

-Another thing would be to look into city/town then county and then state and Federal assistance programs to see if any are applicable.

-And here's a link to check if there are clinical trials:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/action/GetStudy

-It might also be worth calling local teaching universities to see if there are any studies/trials being conducted at those also.

I'll let you know if I find any studies on vitamin/mineral question.
NancyB

Waningphilosophic
03-08-2006, 05:39 PM
Does anyone know if it is a somewhat "universal" fact that the higher the dose(mgs 8 vs 2) is cheaper when bought in quantity? I am not on suboxone - I am on Subutex and I pay $130 for a 30 day supply of 2mgs or roughly $4.30 per pill. If I were prescribed 8mg pills would they be cheaper? I find this hard to believe, but most of this thread and others seem to imply this. If I were able to persuede my DR, couldnt I just score and then cut the 8mgs to where they were the level of 2mg and save some money? Any help from a pharmacisit monitoring or knowlegeable person would be greatly apprecieated. TIA.

NancyB
03-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Hi Waningphilosophic,
Yes, The pricing structure of both Suboxone and Subutex make it more cost effective for the 8mg pills to be cut to the 2mg dose. Of course there are price variations pharmacy to pharmacy, so a few phone calls could save you even more. But you will definitely save if you were prescribed the 8mg. pills.
NancyB

buzzbuzzard
03-10-2006, 12:25 AM
I just paid $6 per 8 mg Suboxone (20 for $120) at Walgreens in San Francisco. I'm not using insurance because I don't want this to follow me; I freelance now but plan to find a regular job at some point, and I don't want this treatment seen by a prospective employer.

OhioMike
03-10-2006, 12:38 AM
I pay 3.66 per 8mg tablet. or roughly 110, per 30 count of 8mg. This is before insurance.

Waningphilosophic
03-10-2006, 05:07 PM
OhioMike - Do you mean, before your policy reimburses you? Or is that your portion? ANYONE ELSE - I live in Hell-Paso Texas, there is only one subutex DR in a city of over 500,000 and I am not so sure how keen he would be to prescribing 8mg pills when I am usually prescribed 2mg. None of the pharmacies have them on hand per se, but all are very competitive when it comes to ordering them. I can pay, depending on how much time and gas I want to waste anywhere from $115-$139 for 30 2mgs. He will surely claim the potential for abuse supercedes my need to be ecconomic about the whole thing. Does anyone know if it is cheaper to buy 8mg pills, but in a lower quantity? To recieve the 1.5mgs I need each day, if I could properly cut them, I would only need 7, 8mg pills. Has anyone attempted to do this yet?
TIA

Suture
03-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Subutex is more expensive then Suboxone. I think its a supply and demand thing, more people use Suboxone. I don't know how much more, I'm sure it varies. Even though the 8mgs tablest of subutex are still cheaper per mg then the 2mg.

If your doc is worried about abuse why not ask for Suboxone? It will cost less too.
S-

kiltman64
03-11-2006, 04:40 AM
Hi,
I paid $700 to begin the tx and this covered the first weeks meds and first two weeks of visits. After the first two weeks it is $75 per office visit. My insurance has a copay of $24 for the pills no matter the quantity the doctor writes. First script was for 7 and second was for 14 and they both cost me $24. I am going to tell my doctor this next time and hope he will give me a longer script to save money on the prescriptions. I have been using my presciption plan for this and am a little worried by some of the posts that state this could follow you. Could someone who has had a bad experience with using their insurance and having it haunt them please answer. I am in Tennessee and as I understand it I am protected by strict confidentiality laws concerning this treatment and I am not required to release this info to any employer. If I am wrong I would like to know. I have a job that is sensitive to this type of thing and dont want to take any chances.
Thanks
William

cornbally
03-15-2006, 01:06 AM
w/ insurance 14 8mg $25.50

Robyn
03-15-2006, 11:18 PM
Paul,
I get on average 60 of the 2mg pills and Express picks up all but $25.00.

Chuck
03-18-2006, 01:45 PM
quote:Originally posted by cho55cho

I am curious. Are your insurance companies paying for the Buprenorphine pills?


The rate at a pharmaciest in Aventura Mall, Miami Florida charges $5 for the 8mg orange flavor. and yes my HMO pays for part of my medication. Since this is not a generic for the 30 pills I would pay $50. If it would have been generic I would pay $10.

I do not know what they are going to charge me for the lower mgs pills.

My doctor is a real 12 Stepping Nazi Jerk, and he is ignoring many of the medical protocols outline in the Federal Guidelines. I should be able to make some kind of complain to the federal government who is licensing him to prescribe this medication. At least for him to be talk with and asked how is he prescribing this medication.

He is comfrontative and costantly sacastic, telling me that I am going to do it his way or not at all. I do not even know what he is planing to do. He tells me the day I visit him what he is going to do next. Although I am accepting his way of doing things because I have no choice right now. I am doing it under intimidation and coersion.

I am afraid this guy might hurt some patient, I am quite tolerant of this condition, but I do think that he is not providing best practice, and seems to be following some kind of 12 Step Phylosophy to manage me and I guess other patient.

I think this web site, should have some kind of location where patient should be able to indicate their consern(both positive and negative), eventhough the website does not take responsability for the information and only the writer should take responsability. But I think prospective patients should know that some doctors are not following what I think is appropriet medical protocol based on the Federal Guidelines outline in TIP 40 of the SAMHSA documentation.

woodshop
03-18-2006, 10:55 PM
I PAID $375.00 FOR 120 PILLS OF SUBOXONE 2MG. EACH
MY DOCTOR CHARGED ME $1,500 FOR THE FIRST MONTH AND STARING THE PROGRAM AND $1,000 AFTER 6 MONTHS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOING RATE. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, ITS MONEY IN THE BANK FOR ME, IT SAFED MY LIFE.

Zeuss
03-19-2006, 07:06 AM
It costs me nothing to see my doctor and my dose of Subutex (24Mgs) costs me $5.00 per day. The daily dosage cost is the same weather I am on .2Mg or on 32Mg. 50 cents a day less if I pay weekly. I guess thats just another of the bonuses of living in this fine country.BFN.

Oops The fine country i was talking about is Australia.

rikaros
03-19-2006, 01:59 PM
My insurance covers my script. It's the doctor fees that are outrageous here. In Altoona, PA, they are charging between 375-600 just for the FIRST visit! Realistically, how is someone in active addiction to afford that??

Also, medical assistance DOES pay for the doctor's visits, it is charged as a general practitioner visit. So if you are looking to begin suboxone treatment and a provider tries to tell you that MA doesn't cover it, they are lying. There was a scuttle-butt for about 3 months whether or not it was billed as a PCP visit or mental health (2 different billing companies). It was divided between the two, depending on where you go to get your treatment. But by this time, many of the doctors realized that this was a profitable endeavor, and as MA does not pay the same as cash pay, they are refusing MA. It is really hard to find a decent doctor from the bad ones, there are so many of the latter who are just using the treatment as a cash crop.

My recommendation to everyone looking is call around and ask questions before scheduling an appointment. I was fortunate in that I was in MMT for almost 6 years before transferring to suboxone, so I had a significant amount of recovery time and only needed maintenance at that point. But I have seen it backfire in some patients, where the doctor is not closely monitoring them and they have since relapsed, which is truly unfortunate.

Torxis
03-21-2006, 06:37 PM
Here in Northern New Jersey I paid $150.00 for the initial office visit now pay $50.00 for follow-ups. I pay $85.00 for 30tabs @ 2mg/tab. My doc dispenses the Suboxone right from his office. Walgreens charges $11.90 for a single 2mg tab, but $98.00 for 28. This lasts me 2 weeks.
I had an emergency when my doc went on vacation and forgot to tell me. I found another MD who covered me for a $75.00 office visit.
People, doctors are people too and many are suseptable to haggeling [no spell check]. Besides being in business to make money, most are there to help. So if you're having difficulties, try talking to them. Express yourself maturely and without getting excited. Remember, they can't help if they don't know you have a problem.

leolady
03-22-2006, 05:37 PM
Hi all,
Here in Michigan, I just paid 16.59 For 2 pills. I am currently unemployed...no unemolyment yet...i was thinking of asking my dr if he could give me some thru his office? Is that possible..I mean i need this medicine..well dont we all though!!

Thanks

MrsNola
03-23-2006, 02:05 AM
hmm...I have just started (today) going through this with my husband:

Weekly counseling session... free
Monthly Doctor's Evaluation visit...$350
Monthly supply of 8mg tablets (2 per day)...$322
The idea of getting my husband back....priceless
(I couldn't resist)

brim
03-23-2006, 01:02 PM
In baltimore, Maryland $20 a pill and $70 a week how does one stay clean on the price of $900.00 a month for treatment - unreal!

dodo: Every place I've looked at least a 3month waiting list. Baltimore has a great big problem and they don't have the resources! Poorly run city when it comes to helping addiction.

Anna APRN
03-24-2006, 02:09 AM
Mrs Nola, My comment about your wonderful snse of humor was for you. I have been reading this discussion board for a long time but am just getting on to post...not getting the technical aspects down yet.
Anna APRN

MrsNola
03-24-2006, 11:29 PM
Thanks for the nice response, Anna APRN! You have to smile sometimes, right?

Kathleen
03-25-2006, 02:26 AM
Hi Leolady, I wish free samples were a possiblity for lots of people but because Suboxone is a controlled substance (narcotic) it can't be done. Sorry! What about City or State health care programs while you are unemployed. I am not a social worker so this isn't my area of expertise, but when I have a patient in a situation such as yours, I walk them over to our clinic social worker and let her help them get State or City coverage which usually seems to be retroactive. It's worth a try. Check with a social worker. Good luck!
Kathleen RN

suboxman
03-27-2006, 07:10 PM
I pay a co-pay non formulary 50$ yes through insurance. Whether prescribed 10 pills or 180 pills the same 50$

Mrs Nola that is cute. So expensive? none of these doctors take health insurance and just rip us off. The drug is a lifesaver for me and I am having problems getting a steady supply. My current doctor wants me off. I pay 20 co pay to seee her my insurance pays her 95$

Good Luck sorry its so darn expensive

brim do yo u have costco? Cheapest around. Walmart is usually cheaper than most. That cost is crazy.

Brett
03-27-2006, 07:56 PM
I paid 5.50 per 8mg. tab

emma4484
04-09-2006, 04:41 AM
I am very fortunate to have healthnet insurance from my job. I go to a CVS in CT. I pay $40 for 42 8 mg. pills So I am only actually paying less than $1 for 8 mg. Out of curiosity I asked how much it would be with no insurance $250 for 42 8mg or $500 for a month supply! I also recieved a snotty attitude from the pharmacist after giving him my script, I feel like a lot of people are still holding onto a stigma of people on medication matienance. I mean come on, we are changing our lives, give us some credit!

Stacey
04-10-2006, 04:10 PM
I live in South Florida. The Dr. I see charges $200.00 for the induction. Each vist after is $100.00. He does not accept insurance. The suboxone is about $5.00 per 8mg tab. I have been on sub. for 11 days now and have had to see the doc 4 or 5 times. I thought the induction price was very reasonable but did not anticipate the amount of followups required. I'm glad to be where i am but at times I feel trapped. Stacey

Caroline
04-11-2006, 01:17 PM
Brim, I'm in Baltimore and most pharmacies charge from $5 to $7 per 8 mg tab. $20 is outrageous...check around. On the topic of pills, I had a female patient yesterday who was only familiar with the 8 mg tabs, and when I gave her the 2 mg pill to take in the office she exclaimed...Wow! This is SO cute! I laughed because I never thought of pills in terms of being 'cute'! <g>
Caroline

estaban
04-12-2006, 09:21 AM
being retired I am under my wifes coverage.She has healthpartners.Induction and all office visits are a $20 co-pay.my scripts are $15 for 60 8 mg pills or a months supply.Pretty fortunate I know

Estaban

beginagain
04-19-2006, 01:28 AM
I changed pharmacies. I stopped going to the little family pharmacy my doc sent me to because he knew they stocked it and I went to my regular pharmacy where I've shopped for about 12 years. They had to order the medication because they do not stock it. They had it in 24 hours. I went from $4.83 per 2mg pill down to $3.00 per 2mg pill. Pays to shop around.

Teresa54
04-19-2006, 11:10 AM
In Va, Insurance covers subutex and I only get enough for the week, I see my sub doctor weekly. He charges 150. per week, insurance reimburses me. I am on enhanced detox, meaning I went while in rehab 8 mg to 4, once out I am now on 2 mg for 10 days, then I will drop to 1 mg, then a 1/2 then jump. Then go on clonidin for two weeks, then maltrexone for 2 months. Opted NO for the long term maintence program.

No idea what the sub is costing paying the copay of 20.bucks for weekly amount.

Tessa. aka Teresa

liz1018
04-19-2006, 11:09 PM
I have insurance with a Rhode Island company and they cover some of the costs. I pay 40.00 for a bottle of 84 (one month supply). Sounds like I am getting a good deal.

Liz

Torxis
04-20-2006, 04:16 PM
I just started working for my Suboxone doctor. How sweet is that?
Now I pay nothing for my visit and $170 for 30 of the 8mgs. The doc gets them directly from the manufacturer so, though he's still making a profit, his patients pay less than at any of the pharmacies I've seen. That works out to $5.66/tab. I only take half a tab, so I pay like $2.80/day for this life saving treatment.
My doctor charges $150 for the induction, and $75 for follow-up visits. If you have no ins. and can't afford to pay, you still have to come up with the induction fee, but he will work with you on the follow-up costs. >>>TOM RN


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umaxim
04-22-2006, 12:42 PM
about 6.60 in Chicago Osco Drug... for 90 of Subutex
have to preorder them, as they only keep suboxone

Bassdad
04-22-2006, 05:44 PM
$20.00 co-pay with Blue Cross PPO plan. #60- 8mg. Suboxone BRAND I am very lucky to have such an awesome Insurance plan. They have paid for everything for me for the last 16 years, no questions asked....Later On, Bassdad

LastChance
04-26-2006, 02:36 PM
Ins Covers with a $20 Co-pay. The doc in NYC charges $900 for a 3 mo supply. Still cheaper than the alternative

HDA
05-02-2006, 09:22 PM
Portland, OR.

First visit - 250.00
follow ups (monthly) - 140.00
Prescription - 60 8mg tabs - 326.00 Fred Meyer

Most of the prices seem to be the same.
Part of the reason I first came to this forum was to :

1. Find the CHEAPEST PRICES FOR SUBOXONE!
2. See about insurance coverage.
3. Converse with you lovely people!!!! YAY!!!!!:D
Any help is appreciated on prices in Portland!

Just some info I recently found out that may help some people.........

If I am repeating someone, just delete, sorry.

I spoke with walgreens and appearently the deal with them is that EACH wallgreens has a DIFFERENT PRICE depending on the competition that they have from the other stores around them. So, word to the wise, if paying cash for your sub., call ALL of the different Wallgreens in your area and price check and also make sure to ask if they HAVE IT IN STOCK.
I found prices from 312.00 - 426.00 for the same 60 qnty. 8 mg tabs at different Wallgreens. Very odd indeed.

Hope this helps!

Eddiew24
05-09-2006, 04:12 PM
I have been addicted to painkillers for two years now. It all started because I broke my ankle and I found that I liked the feeling so I kept taking them after my prescription ended and now I am addicted. I can't sleep or function without them and it is destroying my life. It costs me nearly $200 a week to keep me from withdrawaling and I just can't do it anymore. I have been with my girlfriend for 5 years now and these past two years have been the worst esprcially when I can't get them. I literally go insane. I feel so bad for her because it upset her so much to see me like this. I love her more than anything and I am ready to change my life for myself and for her. I scheduled a doctors appt. for May 15th and I am so ready for this. I live in Savannah, GA and I was wondering if anyone knew the going rate for a prescription of suboxone without insurance or where the cheapest place to get the prescription filled. I would appreciate any information.

Thanks,
Eddie

NancyB
05-09-2006, 04:57 PM
Hi Eddie and welcome! The best thing to do, because the price does vary so much even in the same cities, is to call pharmacies and ask what they're charging. Call the small 'mom and pop' places along with the major chains, including department stores so you'll be sure to get the least expensive price. The pills come in 8mg and 2mg only. And the 8mg are less expensive, so be sure to get the prices on both, since you have yet to begin and don't know what your dose will be. But you can use a pill cutter to cut the 8mg into smaller doses to save on the cost.

Congratulations on taking the first important step. You might want to go through the education section on the site - http://www.naabt.org/education.cfm - especially the 'What is buprenorphine treatment like?' section so that you have a good understanding of the medication and the process. And, I hope I'm not repeating what your physician has told you, but please be sure that you are in mild-to-moderate withdrawals before your induction onto the buprenorphine, otherwise you run the risk of going into precipitated withdrawal.

I wish you well and please feel free to join in, or even start a new topic to introduce yourself to everyone.
And please let us know if you have questions or concerns.
NancyB

austing
05-10-2006, 11:13 PM
i pay 20$ a day for 8 mg in a clinic in south east indiana

Brett
05-11-2006, 01:27 AM
I found a new place to get my suboxone 2.89 per 8mg

JamesContin
05-11-2006, 04:16 PM
I pay $25 dollars for 120 8mg subutex. My insurance pays the rest. My doctors visits are 100 dollars, every 3 months. The first visit was $250 and every visit after has been $100. I had to see him again in 1 week after the 1st. Then we went to 2 weeks, then 1 month, now every 3 months.

ryannnn65
05-12-2006, 03:22 AM
I pay $171 for 30 8mg pills a month and my doctor visits are usually 80 once a month, I use Wlreens in pensacola Fl, and have no insurance.

eddy
05-14-2006, 09:44 PM
$4.65 for a 8mg tablet, $110/month doctor visit, I pay cash far both.
ED

Dragon Fly
05-17-2006, 12:22 PM
I paid $300 a month for 60 Sub 8mg pills. I think the first visit with my addiction specialist was $250 and it was about $140 for a full visit which lasted all of 10 minutes for $70 for half visit. Pretty expensive. That is why I can't get back on them until I get on disability.

skittle
05-17-2006, 08:32 PM
I was paying 121 for 20 8mg tabs and was taking 3 8mg a day so needless to say it got exspensive. However after much stalking, begging, and pleading, my insurance finally agreed to pick it up for 1 yr. Thank God!! Its true what they say "The sqeaky wheel...) My doctor is great and went far and beyond to help me out too. Good luck to all who are struggling with the expense, its not easy but worth it.

WENDY92040
05-21-2006, 10:27 PM
I didn't even know you could just get a script and buy them. I have paid $3000. to an "at home detox" program. He comes to my home and delivers it in quanties that will last me 4 days, then he comes if 4 days and steps me down. I do have concerns that I have been stepped down to quickly. I was so trapped when I found this place. I am not a candidate for rapid detox (heart condition) and all the other rehabs I found were in house and from $10,000 - $27,000.00. I actually was trying to find another Doctor so I could get more vicodin, but when I typed in "physicians" At home detox, here in San Diego, was what came up. I saw that as a sign from God and took the ball and ran with it!

P.S. My "rep" has advised me not to use my insurance to pay for the drug I will need after the suboxone (that blocks opiates)because then I will be labeled a drug addict and my have issues in the future getting insurance again.

RemissionRocks
05-22-2006, 12:48 AM
your rep might be mis informed. Dont HIPAA laws prevent any insurance company from labeling a person a certain thing? I know my insurance company doesnt have me labeled as anything. and why would you worry about getting insurance again? they cant just cancel you because you're an addict.

littlemissbliss
05-22-2006, 09:32 PM
My heart goes out to all the people that don't have insurance to cover their costs. I would never have been able to afford Sub therapy without my visits being covered, ($17.10 copay), and my scripts, ($22.00 each).

My original habit was mostly covered by scripts, so I was never spending 1,000's and 1,000's of dollars on pills anyway, (although even the $200-$300 was just about killing me - massive credit card debt), so I can't imagine what I would have done if I didn't work for a great school, that is connected with a great medical system.

kristofire
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
<div align="left">one psychiatrist in my town charges 300 dollars first visit and 80 every time after that. he will give you benzos if you are allready on them. now I am on 40mgs of methadone and have been on and off for 7 years. I once was up to 90mgs ed when I was going to the clinic. I do have anxiety, panic attacks and social anxiety disorder.

There is a woman that can now write for suboxone/subutex, but I dont know if she will give me my 6mgs of alprazolam a day. I go to a pain management clinic now and want to get on subutex very badly. I do have pain though. I dont want to drop my pm doc and have her not give me my needed benzos.

her first visit is 75 bucks and 50 dollars everytime after that. I was attending the methadone clinic for pain, not heroin. I dont use needles and will never. I called her office and she said or her receptionist said she would give me suboxone. I really dont want it, cause i dont need nalexone, hense, never injected opiates or anything.so, I am not ready to give up my pm doctor who is great and is very understanding. subutex 4mg tabs are 4 dollars here in florida.
so we'll see. also, she said i have to get to 40mgs and wait for 24-48 hours before starting subutex. I was told 20mgs of methadone.

thank you and any info is much appreciated.

p.s. I may be moving to hawaii, so I have been searching for pain mangement drs' out there as well as bupe docs.<div align="left"></div id="left">

quote:Originally posted by Jake

I paid about $10 each for the 8mg. at CVS in RI
Jake


4$ for an 8mg subutex

dr. visit depends. first visit 75$ each additional 50$

different dr. 295$ intial, then 80 or 100$ each additional. this guy was the first in my county to be able to write for bupe.

quote:Originally posted by PB

Ask him if you found another type of group for suboxone patients would that be okay.
does he only take cash. what kind of doctor is he. if he is just a primary care guy he is just thinking he is helping you an does not know about diferent kinds of therapy for addiction disorders.
PAUL
we should move this becaus we are off topic. Sorry but my insurance will cover 100 8mg pill a month for 20 dollar co pay


if you and your dr don't come to an agreement on medication, you do not have to pay the dr visit. i have walked out on so many a**hole dr's that had that attitude. a good dr will listen to you and give you what works for you. I have told them very boldly " well, i guess you dont want your 200 hundred bucks for the dr visit" they have actually called me back in as im walking out.

alot of people dont know this. walk in clinics aret the only exception cause you pau first.

DocsGetHooked2
05-25-2006, 09:12 PM
I pay $5 for an 8mg Suboxone at Sam's Club. My doc charged $250 for induction and $100 per visit after that. I did not & do not use my insurance because insurance companies share your information similar to your credit history and it may impact my ability to get life insurance (or other types of insurance) in the future. It is an unfortunate situation considering my insurance covers all of this at reasonable rates.

BadHabits
05-25-2006, 09:22 PM
How the hell do insurance companys "Share" information? That is a HIPPA violation at its best!!! NOT MAD, JUST SHOCKED!!

SomeDayBFree
05-25-2006, 09:46 PM
Neil ~

Anytime you apply for a policy, start with a new doctor, etc., you are given a form to sign authorizing them to obtain information about you. Most people don't think twice and sign it.

The bottom line is that signing that piece of paper is a requirement to obtain whatever service/insurance, etc. that you are trying to get. We voluntarily give away our privacy everyday :(. Whether we like it or not.

SomeDayBFree

BadHabits
05-25-2006, 10:41 PM
Wow!!! Very interesting and a friggin violation of health rights....


~~N~~

Stacey
05-25-2006, 11:25 PM
I'm also doing this without my insurance being involved. I was denied insurance due to the sharing of information between compaines. The culprit was shingles on my eyelid many years ago and see the eye dr. yearly to evaluate poss. damage. No insurance for me from Blue Cross. Unfortunately, I had to go to the emergency room about 4 or 5 days after my sub. induction for dehydration and mental status changes....there will be unwanted info on the record with that mess....[xx(]

RemissionRocks
05-26-2006, 12:45 AM
im sorry but i just think its freakin ridiculous that people get charged a 900 induction fee, and pay hundreds of dollars a month! that high cost probably makes it nearly impossible for lots of people to receive treatment that they need to receive! after discovering any doctor can get a DATA waiver online for 100 bucks (50 if they are in the APA), i am really disappointed that no doctor in my town of 35 thousand has one! i guess i could make a few more phone calls, but so far every nurse ive talked to that has asked their doctor has refused. they think that it will cause a ruckous in their office, causing tons of low life people to come there and ruin the calm atmosphere. what a crock. that really makes me mad. i mean i could understand why they may think that...especially after going to a methadone clinic...they have a bad reputation...and some people that do go are a little out of line, and act inappropriate. one more thing...
i saw this advertisement on tv... about getting discounts or paying next to nothing for medications. i went to the website, and found thousands of medications on there, from duragesic, to ms contin, the list goes on and on. yet...no subutex...and no suboxone. what gives? and i am really surprised after reading the FDA has approved suboxone and subutex for the use of chronic pain. &lt;sigh&gt;


Anyone have any suggestions on getting a discount? I mean I guess I really have no room to complain since I pay 65 a month for doctor visits, and 70 for the script...but it is still a lot of money...I remember the days when I paid 5 for a doctor visit, and only 3 for a script of oxycontin. why does this stuff have to be so costly?

chicagofire
05-29-2006, 12:35 PM
I was charged $150 for my first visit, each additional visit is $75. I do have insurance, and if they cover my visits will be $18. I am not sure if they will pay or not yet, I did not pre-cert my visit with this doctor or have a referral from my GP. I get my medicing 28 8mg bup for $30.00

"Always do sober what you said you'd do stoned. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut."
-Hemingway

Chuck
05-31-2006, 06:48 PM
quote:Originally posted by cho55cho

I am curious. Are your insurance companies paying for the Buprenorphine pills?


Mine is, but I am not too sure they know what it is. My primary doctor is prescribing it. And my primary doctor, belongs in their list. It is an HMO.

bobsled
06-13-2006, 05:33 PM
I guess I am fortunate. My health insurance allows for a mail-in rx, so a 90 day supply costs me $20.
My doc is good about this, I see him every two weeks to check in.

Mark1963
06-15-2006, 05:49 PM
I payed three-hundred dollars for my first appointment last Thursday. I was given thirty Subutex. I was told that there is a possibility that my insurance will pay in the future and possibly re-imburse me for this first perscription.

angipooh
06-20-2006, 05:05 AM
Hi! Since I've been on Suboxone (Aug 2005) my insurance has always paid and I get 120 8mg a month for $50 and then I lost my job and my hubby had to put me on his insurance which is BCBS and now I pay $35 a month for 120 8 mg Suboxone at Walgreens. I see my ther/Dr every month and it is a $25 co-pay. I'm so blessed and Thankful that my insurance will cover this medication because I feel that I would not be here today if I did not get help and find a "great" Suboxone Dr.

cowboy
06-20-2006, 06:18 AM
Just purchased my first script last week her in Oregon. For 30 8mg pills the price is $160.39. Through my insurance its $67.76. Expensive, but worth it to me.
Cowboy

spitfire86
06-20-2006, 11:55 AM
I am paying $50 for a 3 month supply of 8mg suboxone and $60 each month for the doctor visit in south east pa

suntanner
06-22-2006, 05:52 AM
I am still visiting the Dr. weekly, which is $40.00-$20.00 co-pay. Walgreens charges $40.00 for 7-8mg Suboxone pills. The Dr. requires a once a month group discussion-which is paid out of pocket for $40.00. I need to ask my Dr. on the next visit-what's next as far as my appts. go.
I would like to start seeing him once a month if possible. Elise

Silvio
06-24-2006, 02:41 PM
The Price at WalMart is $598.00 for 90 8mg pills in the Midwest.

Suri
07-03-2006, 11:27 AM
My first intial appt. with Dr. was $200, then $90 each time after.
The price I pay for suboxone in Mich, is $300 for 24, 8mg pills.
My insurance does not pay for it, I have medicare and medicaid ins.
It is very expensive.
Thanks,
Suri

I'm sorry, I posted the wrong price, I pay $160 for 24, 8mg. suboxone at walmart in Mich.

Suri

twins2772
07-07-2006, 02:27 PM
Hi all New to board, my insurance covers mine, but my copay is still 35 dollars. Which is better than most from what I hear.[8)]

chicagofire
07-08-2006, 01:11 PM
Everything I have seen in my chart has been referenced to "pain management" I have seen no 303.40[?] (drug addiction) anywhere so far.

zzzzz
07-13-2006, 06:31 PM
I had an induction with two different doctors (first doctor who got me started made me uncomfortable so I tried another). Co-pay $15 for each visit. Co-pay for a weeks worth of Sub is $20. So for now I am paying $140 a month for treatment. Doctor says we can go to every other week is all goes well for a while.

Suri
07-16-2006, 06:11 PM
I just filled my 2nd script at another pharmacy. 50 2mg. pills for $130.
Does that sounds right? Is their a way to get suboxone cheaper if I don't have insurance&gt;

Thanks,
Suri

Subhelp
07-17-2006, 04:47 PM
Hello.. I paid $ 2.70 for the 2 mg here in RI. I've got a "10 cent" health plan. But to me, this wonder drug has give me a new outlook on life.

Bob34
07-23-2006, 10:00 PM
6 dollars a peice here in Mississippi, 200 for the first visit and 100 there after , alot cheaper than chasing pain killers on the street

cookie
07-23-2006, 11:41 PM
I live in Alabama, near Tennessee and Mississippi state lines. I have called several doctors in all 3 states. Both my sister (who lives in TN near MS state line) are on suboxone. Average prices around here are $200 to $300 for induction fees and $75 for monthly visits thereafter. I just got my first subsription for a full month of 90 (8 mg) tabs for $82.00 using my BCBS insurance. I think for that amount of sub, most pharmacies around here charge approximately $550. I have read here where several people are getting 3 month supply from their doc. My doctor told me that he could only write for a month. Does anyone know if there is regulation pertaining to this and does it vary from state to state? This doctor never charged me an induction fee. I feel very fortunate to have BCBS.

josie
07-26-2006, 02:48 AM
Actually, I believe that the doctor can give you a script that can have either five or six refills. I personally don't know any doctors that are doing anything but writing for a month at a time at the most. It is much easier to monitor tapering if one gets a script for only month, and thus have to go to the doctor at least once a month.

leesie
07-26-2006, 08:06 AM
I have PacifiCare PPO, and I pay the highest copay on their "scale" for the sub, whether the rx is for 10 or 600, my copay is $35.00. My inductions was $850, and each subsequent visit is $150.

lacey64
07-28-2006, 02:14 AM
In Pottsville, Pennsylvania @ the Rite Aid my suboxone prescription costs $160.99 for 28 tabs of 8mg suboxone. That covers me for one week. Fortunately i have insurance and my co-pay is $18.00

Jennifer2006
07-28-2006, 04:42 AM
I am from Kentucky where Ive heard the cost is higher because of the enormous amounts of people who need this life saving medicine, does anyone know about KY prices?

rockstar7
07-28-2006, 07:23 AM
I just started sub treatment 2 days ago and today I was so tired (and this is a really attractive visual) I had a tablet under my tongue and I nodded off and drooled it down the front of me! YUCK! ;o) Anyway, induction and all visits, calls etc. for 1st 30 days cost $1000. That's unlimited # of times. My 1st script for 20 8mg tabs was $122 at a Walgreens in So. San Fran. The Dr. doesn't accept any insurance for this program unless you go through a inpatient treatment program at his affiliated hospital first. It was worth it to me because I was able to get an appointment ASAP. Cheers, S.

imported_n/a
07-28-2006, 10:53 PM
On 7/25, I paid $118 at Walgreen's for a qty of 20-8mg pills. That would be approx. $6 per pill rounded up.

cookie
07-29-2006, 04:21 AM
Jennifer2006,
One way to find out the prices in any area is to call the doctors on the prescbribing list,in your area,and ask the receptionist or nurse the costs of the induction fee and follow up visits. To find out the price of the prescription, call your local Wal-Mart pharmacy and a few other pharmacies in your area and they will be able to tell you the costs. If you have insurance it may cover some of the visits and prescription costs. You will find a list of prescribing doctors in your area by using the patient/doctor connection on the home page of this website.

Maureen
08-07-2006, 01:33 AM
Doctor in OH charged $390 cash for induction/first visit which included all meds to make my daughter comfortable. After that it's $150cash a visit and that includes the meds for a few days. We're only 4 days in and go back on Weds (another $150, cash) and will probably receive enough meds to get her through the rest of the week and the weekend. I'm stunned at the difference in her. I'm holding my breath.

I'm told insurance will pay for meds once she's detoxed but not the doctor visit. I have not spoken with the insurance company. I've been told by some people that some insurance companies will cover the induction - but I have to submit the paperwork on my own. Once I get a handle on what's happening and collect myself (and the receipts) I will do that and let you all know what happens. I believe they will cover the costs of on-going talk therapy though. At first I was surprised that all of them required "cash only" but hearing what it is they go through with fraud, etc from some in this space I understand it now. I found it not too difficult to find a doctor here in OH but it seemed that half of them in our area only treated veterans through the VA system.

Dr. Abe Soliman (Board Certified in Addiction Medicine and Psychiatry) is having an open house educational event on August 22 at 6 - 7:30 pm at his offices at 8833 Chapel Square Lane in Cincinnati, OH 45249 513 774 9444 (just off I-71 about 20 miles above the city,) and he's going to talk about NEW OUTPATIENT treatment options including SUBOXONE for opiate detox and Vovitrol for once a month injection for alocohol craving. He asked us to invite anyone who might be interested in the program. Soft drinks and cookies provided...;) We'll be there!

gettinbetternow
08-15-2006, 10:37 PM
I paid 200.00 for 45 8 mg. tabs at a small pharmacy near Nashville. They have by far been the least expensive. And...they don't charge more if I only get a few pills at a time. I checked & Walgreens was 59.00 more for the same # 45.

Trunlu
08-17-2006, 09:01 AM
So far--I just started today--I've paid $700 for the induction, which includes four 1:1 counseling sessions, UA and blood panels, and Subutex for the first month. After that, it's $150 a month for two 1:1 counseling sessions, the UA and blood work as needed. After the first month, I'm given a written prescription and will pay out of pocket. I know my doctor lets us decide if we want Subutex (which he prefers) or Suboxone. Suboxone, overall, is cheaper by roughly $1.20/pill.

There are also two local pharmacies which offer the meds at their cost, plus 6%, which is apparently quite a discount. (This pharmacy--both owned by the same man-is known for offering pretty decent discounts on most RXs, especially for those without insurance.)

When I know what my regular dose will be--I'm going to go with the Subutex--I'll update this post with that cost. (I've already spoken with the pharmacist to get a rough estimate on 60-8 miligram Subutex tabs and the quote was around $319.) I also won't know if the AAA discount will work until I have RX in hand. (I checked with Rite Aid, Walgreen's and Long's and they were all significantly higher, upwards of $400 for the same quantity.)

I also have the paperwork to apply for the free meds from the manufacturer, but it looks like it's only good for Suboxone. I'm going to call the hotline to see if it works for Subutex.

Like I said, I'll update when I get the figures.

rufusxs
08-21-2006, 09:23 PM
For my first script (which was written for 60 x 8mg pills) I paid $400 + NJ sales tax! That was during August, 2006, and was at an independent pharmacy that the doctor recommended.

However, I'm going to shop around for my refill and probably start out with Walmart next. If Walmart can beat the $6.67/pill price substantially (like $5/pill or less) then I'll just go there.

My first doctor's visit (which included both the first meeting where we did the planning and he wrote the Bup script as well as the induction visit)cost $150. Each subsequent visit will cost me $70, plus the price of a script fill. For a 3 month treatment plan, that's 5 visit plus 5 scripts. Add that ($70*5 + $400*5) to the $550 of the first visit(s)/script, and you get $2,900 for the full course of treatment, or &lt;$1000/month.

Considering that each one of my Oxy 80mg scripts cost about $700 (that for generics!), plus $120 for the Roxy 30mg, PER MONTH, the monthly cost is almost even and then as soon as my treatment is over the savings begin at a terrific rate. Whether I or my insurance company garners the savings doesn't matter to me, the principle is what matters.

$2,900 for a course of treatment that has given me back my life is one of the greatest bargains of all time, IMHO.

skippy
08-23-2006, 05:09 PM
Hi...I'm a newbie here but I think this site is by far the most helpful and informative sub website around. Thank you everyone.

I hope this is a good thread to ask this question. I live in Michigan and travel to Kalamazoo to pay $190.00 a week for my Suboxone. Needless to say, this is really draining the bank account. I would have no problem driving to Detroit or anywhere in Lower Michigan if there was a cheaper place to get treatment. Does anyone know of a doctor that wouldn't cost me so much??

I really, really appreciate any help, I am getting desperate because Sub is a miracle drug in my opinion and I don't want to be without it, but I can't afford it much longer.

Thank you so much for any suggestions you might have and taking the time to help me.

Mary
08-24-2006, 11:33 PM
Hey skippy, check out this topic for michigan doctors:

http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1567

Good luck! -Mary

Brooke123
08-25-2006, 03:55 PM
Wow, it seems everyone is getting alot of pills with there scripts, I was getting 14 every week....Never did I get one for more than that...I paid $40
for that.
brooke

Addendum: WITH Insurance...:)
B

loriann
08-27-2006, 02:56 AM
HELP!My BF lives in NY and doesn't have insurance. Does anyone know is Family Health Plus/Healthy NY will pay for suboxone? I have called Independent health, BC, and Univera (who participate) and NO ONE was able to tell me. Right now he is paying about $500 a month (16-24mg a day) Any info would be REALLY appreciated.

magicticket
08-30-2006, 07:45 PM
I pay 145 for 30 8mg tab's if anyone has eckerd drug they are the best and cheapest price for it call around, If your insurance won't cover it then get your doctor to give them a call thats what i did and they agreed to cover it for a year and after 3 treatment centers and other things my insurance covers very little for substance abuse but my doctor got them to cover mine so you should give it a shot!

AZDinker
09-04-2006, 01:19 AM
With insurance (United Healthcare) I pay $50 for 30 8mg ($1.66 a piece) at Walgreens. Without insurance, they're $172.99 for 30 ($5.76 a piece). This is in Scottsdale, Arizona. Copay for my doctor is $25.00 and I see him every few months for refills.

remedy
09-08-2006, 12:14 PM
$157 for (30) 8mg Suboxone tablets in Tampa, FL at an independent (cheaper) pharmacy. It would be $180 for the equivalent at our local Walgreens. This of course is without insurance. With insurance I used to pay $50 bucks because it was considered "non-formulary" medicine and of course the insurance company considered it was not-needed for my life. If only they knew I would be dead without it.

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Life sucks, then you take opiates. Then you stop opiates. Then life never sucks as good as it did before you took opiates.

pabrte
09-08-2006, 01:06 PM
When I first started paying for buprenorphine (im the one who has been on subs now for about 7 yrs) I had to pay my dr $200 for the first visit, then $100 per mo after that. But if I cant pay he's patient. he'll let me pay it off. The pills run about $160 for 30, $306 for 60. However, at my appt wed we called a tele # I found in another site and there is a finacial asistance program. They are sending him the info and he's calling me when the paperwork is in. He was delighted! He told me that the reps from Reckit were just there and said nothing about this to him. he literally jumped right to the phone when I handed him the number. Here's the quote from other site:

"Dendrite, which is a division of Reckitt-Benkiser (the company that makes suboxone) now has a prescription assistance program. Each physician that has a bupe program is allowed 1 patient to get free medication from the company. Your physician will need to call Dendrite at 1-866-512-2216 to get the paperwork. The physician needs to fill out the paperwork and both the patient and physician have to sign the forms.

Once this is done and sent back to the company, the patient will get their suboxone free.

This is a new program and many doctors are not aware about it yet. If you are on suboxone and need assistance with your medication just contact your doctor and give him the number. He can let you know if he already has a patient on the assistance program."

Now, there are other numbers posted here and we didnt try them. I dont know if there are two programs or not, but apparently a dr can only have one patient take advantage of this. I will report my expereince to this site.

Sag40
09-15-2006, 03:39 AM
My induction will cost $475.00 then $50.00 per visit afterwards - I am assuming this will NOT cover the costs of medication.

tina
09-16-2006, 04:41 PM
I pay $250/month to the clinic and my insurance company reimburse me 50% of the submitted paid receipts. My insurance co-pay for meds is $25 no matter how many or what mg. I am so blessed ! After reading these prices, I feel so lucky. Crazy, my insurance, Aenta, pays for the subutex. My dr was suprised. HE said most of his patients are on the suboxone due to the price and the fact that insurance WONT cover subutex.

wow.

ready2quit
09-20-2006, 11:07 AM
I pay $125 a visit, which is once a month and my copay for any amount of 8mg subs I am prescribed is $35. So a total of $160 a month is a breeze compared to what I was spending on dope.

MattV
10-10-2006, 09:54 AM
I payed $225 up front for my initial visit and induction. Each visit after that, currently one/week are $100. My perscription is a $15 co-pay being there is currently no generic. My doctor does not take any insurance for Sub treatment. All the lab work, blood & urine, is covered. She wrote the lab orders for the test as part of a general physical, not as opiate addiction treatment.

Matt
A Life Transformed

kellyf1958
10-10-2006, 12:31 PM
Sounds very expensive. I paid 300.00 my first visit. He is taking my medical because of my situation but dosnt normal take it. Mine also covers my suboxone. I am luckier then most. I am truley sorry for all that have to pay so much. Recovery is hard enough to have to worry about paying to get better.

SuboxCouple
10-16-2006, 08:02 PM
EVERYONE without insurance please go to www.freedrugcard.us My husband and I save about $100 a week on our suboxone at walgreens! It costs nothing to get this and you will save on any and all presciption meds! All you do is answer a couple quick questions and in less than 5 minutes you will get a form to print out and take to any pharmacy. I know at walgreens you never have to submit a thing again! They automatically use it again and again on any presciption I bring them! You will definetly save money on your detox meds!!!!

snipes
10-25-2006, 06:07 PM
I would like to also let everyone know about www.freedrugcard.us &lt;-- If you go to this site and give your name it will generate a drug card that can be printed out for people who dont have insurance! It can be used on any medication including suboxone/subutex! You have to use one of the pharmacys that participates in this program.. some are Rite-Aid, Walgreens, Wal-mart, Target, A&P and more! TODAY I picked up my script of 60 8mg suboxones from Rite-Aid and I used the card... I saved $67.. witch isnt bad. I paid $280 instead of $347. I paid less then $5 a 8mg sub. SO anyone who doesnt have insurance may want to check out this web site and print a card up!

Tim

woodchip
11-01-2006, 05:20 AM
I just began Suboxone treatment and I paid $300 for the first visit to my doctor which included an asessment and 8 mg of Suboxone. He then wrote me a script of Suboxone that would last me 2 weeks. I am currently paying my doctor $150 per visit (every two weeks). So that works out to $300 every 4 weeks just for the visits alone (not including the price of getting my prescription filled). He does not accept medical insurance, but I don't have any insurance anyway. I would like some feedback to compare what I am paying with what other people are being charged by their doctors. Thanks.

snipes
11-01-2006, 01:42 PM
woodchip,
I paid $175 for my first visit, $125 for my 2nd visit(witch came 5 days after the 1st visit) ... and now I go monthly at $100 a visit(1 time a month) I pay $280 for a script of 60 8mg suboxone with the freedrugcard.us

MrMDaley
11-02-2006, 12:55 PM
Hello all,
I pay $65.00 per doctor visit (once a month) and $265.00 per month for Suboxone (60 pills).

Matthew

snipes
11-02-2006, 01:53 PM
MrMDaley,
If you dont mind me asking... Where do you pay $265 for 60 8mg suboxone? what pharmacy? and is that without any drug discount card?

Thanks in advance...
Tim

doped_down
11-09-2006, 06:43 PM
My first post. Thanks to previous posters for the help. I'm going to try the UNA card at www.freedrugcard.us , because the website is so informative (pharmacy finder with discounted prices listed). I paid $150 for my initial Dr. visit and $75 for a follow up 3 days later. My next visit will be 2 weeks from the follow up and will cost $75 again. The first script of 12 2mg Suboxone was $42. After the follow up I was prescribed 8mg tablets and 15 of those cost $82 ($74 after card discount according to the website). These are Tulsa, OK prices.

The reason for the 2mg pills in the first script was to create a dosage...My doc had me take one tablet each two hours until I felt "well". Good thing
I felt "well" after 8 mg. 'cause I wasn't getting more until the follow up...Dr. offered to up me to 10 Mg daily, I declined that as well as the other mood alteraters he offered. Dr. advised that the Sub will build up in my system, so I concluded that I don't want anymore of this in my system than necessary and if it is still building then I don't really need 8mg daily, so I cut to 6mg on my first 8mg pill yesterday. I almost thought it a mistake early this AM when I awoke prematurely feeling a little less "well". I regained slumber and took 2mg when I was ready to arise. After another hour I followed with the other 4mg. Feeling fine now.

This Sub is incredible! After a two year addiction to morphene and oxycontin I'm realizing a change back to my pre-addiction thought processes already.

constantwithdrawal
11-12-2006, 03:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by theatercat

My 2 mg. subutex had to be ordered by my pharmacy and won't be in till the 2nd. My doc called me in one 8mg subutex for the weekend, 15 dollars. Its the rite-aid in the Pittsburgh area .


Hey, I live near Pittsburgh. Which doctor do you go to?

chickie1921
11-12-2006, 08:59 PM
I guess I am lucky. I live in NJ. This is my 2nd day on suboxone. My first post. I paid a 35 dollar co pay for 50 8 mg. I have amerihealth insurance. I paid $200 for the first two weeks, then $90 every week after. I guess this is a good deal.

kirk
11-12-2006, 09:16 PM
c-1921...so it's $4680 annually and then script @$70 monthly with insurance.i take it your at 24mg initially. your location affords you choices. you might cut the dr. costs by 2/3.
welcome
kirk

janine44
11-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Hello All
I just started sub 6 days ago. I paid $30.00 for (30) 8 MG. W/O insurance it would have been $135.00 for them. I live in Ohio.

keekee
11-14-2006, 06:06 PM
I am in Hawaii...I paid 128.00 bucks for 24 8mg tablets...help! That hurt...but considering the alternative...its money well spent!

I do have insurance that will pay...but it just hasn't kicked in yet...why is something so needed so expensive???

Why the *&^%$*& aren't the pills this expensive???? I get the feeling that there is a conspiracy here...drug companies....anyway just venting

ergoguy
11-21-2006, 12:30 AM
I filled a script today for just under $100 ( 14 pills )

mike29glove
11-21-2006, 12:45 AM
I'm lucky now. Each script costs $25 co-pay and dr. visits are now NO CHARGE. This is my 2nd doc. The first cost $150 for 1st visit, then $75 after that. Turns out he was not in my insurance network but when I was ready to start, he was the only one I could get an appt with. he was all about the $$$. I called him before I started and he assured me that my insurance was OK. I go to the appt, in full withdrawal, of course and he's examining me in the room when his nurse comes in and says there's a problem w/ my insurance. He immediately stopped the exam and told me he would not continue until I handed him the cash to cover the visit. I had to leave the office and scrounge up the money to cover the visit. Crazy.

gogoforit
11-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Subutex has saved my life. The problem is I am currently unemployed and my family is not going to pay for it anymore so I cannot afford it. I can't work because I'm trying to taper off quickly and go back to work. It takes 24 mg.for me to be comfortable enough to work. Where I am that cost almost $1000.00 for meds alone, plus $210 for MD a month. I see the MD for about 10 minutes or less, then my counselor, whom is very nice but not knowledgable. I am required to see a counselor and this one is in her office and very close and it will be a major problem to switch counselors. I probably do need to find another doctor, but they are all at their limit here. I have been all over the place, trying to wean off in several weeks after a 5 year heavy opiate addiction. That didn't work, so I ended up at 24 mg.and working but lost my job. Even with a job, I can't afford $1000/month for these pills. I don't have insurance. When I go into withdrawl I get severe asthma. I just feel like I'm going to be dead soon and I'd rather not be. I don't know what to do. No one in my family is supportive, they say "just quit". Please help. I'll call the # for free meds and see if my doctor will call. That will help tremendously, except my family won't pay for the doctor anymore, they say "I need to just quit".

I've felt like myself for the first time in years on this subutex. But, if you can't come up with all this money, then what? Go find a methadone clinic? I don't know what to do. Anyone have any suggestions. Also, how can you 'interview' doctors. Because they tell each other, they'll think I'm nutty for jumping around, etc.

paul1270
11-26-2006, 06:01 PM
if any people here are military veterans the cost for the treatment and the medication is zero as I use the Veterans hospital in ST. Petersburg florida, if you are a veteran please call your nearest VA hospital and see if they have certified suboxone personnel or a program. I remember getting a script for oxycontin 30 tabs, I forgot the dosage but my tricare prime picked it up and my copay was 3 dollars, I was told by the pharmacy (cvs) that without insurance the cost would have been 300 plus dollars, I wiped the sweat off my brow as I could not afford to pay that price and live/support a family of 3. as far as the street price, I have heard that many people get the opiates from dealers, I dont know what the cost would be but I would think that a person would have to do a lot of wheeling and dealing to support a opiate addiction. After my hip surgery people must have known that i had pain medication and they woul ask me for a pill or two of morphine. I found it hard to turn them down but I think that by turning them down I didnt risk the possibility of going to jail for selling my meds or maybe someone would OD. either case I didnt give in to my so called partners and they stopped talking to me. I dont feel guilty and the suboxone most people that I talk to dont know what it is. I imagine that the suboxone will hit the streets if it hasnt already and be used to take care of WD by other addicts.

kizevin
11-30-2006, 02:14 PM
I had to pay $100 to see the nurse for an "evaluation." My prescription (called in by the nurse after being approved by the doctor by phone) cost me $40 (it's covered by my insurance). That was for 15 8mg tablets. My first doctor visit, however, will cost $1000 and $250/mo every month hereafter. Talk about fees man, this s*** is crazy expensive.

bd73
12-01-2006, 02:20 PM
Without insurance, (Washington DC) the cost was @ $9 per 8mg Subutex (3/d = $27x30 = $810 month!). However I used a mom & pops pharmacy and once my insurance lapsed they gave me a %15 discount since I'd been a customer for so long.

paul1270
12-03-2006, 05:38 PM
if you are a veteran please check your local Veterans hospital and see if they have a suboxone program in place if so, you will pay little to nothing for the entire program meds, labs included. I am
a 20 years retired Navy man and my program cost me zero, I just have to show up at the group meeting every monday and refrain from using opiates or any other drug to include acohol as they do random urine screens, The word is that 3 positive urines and you are discharged from the program and sent on your merry way back to handle your addiction on your own or seek private medical help and from what I am reading thats quite a lot of money. I have checked with doctors in my area and they all want cash payment wont take insurance. Someone is making a lot of money on suboxone, Paul1270, Tampa Bay Florida.

kelybee
12-16-2006, 03:56 AM
I guess I am lucky, I pay $50 for 60 8mg tablets. My insurance pays, since it is used for the treatment of pain

itsme-NL
12-19-2006, 09:36 AM
I guess I am very lucky cause here in my country we do not have to pay anything.
It is all included in the health insurance.

wamp
12-19-2006, 03:36 PM
$125 induction, $65 monthly thereafter. But I only pay a $15 co-pay. 30 8mg tabs are $37 after insurance.

wamp

Milo
12-27-2006, 01:46 AM
Can anyone who lives in MA recommend a Bupe Dr. that will take insurance? I am trying to get treatment, but can't afford some of the prices I've heard. My insurance sure does cover the pain meds that are causing me to need the treatment in the first place...

Any help would be appreciated!

somnus
12-28-2006, 02:51 AM
I have to go to the clinic to get mine. I get two 8mg tabs and one 2mg tab. 18mg a day at $120 a week.

flier1
12-29-2006, 02:39 AM
Hi Im Helen from Ohio I go to Indiana and I pick up my scripts there it takes me an hour to drive there I go to the recovery room, I have to go every 2 days on Monday Wed. and Fri. Monday I get 4 pills and Wednesday I get 4 pills and on Friday I get 6 pills, and then I drive on Saturday Mornings like I said I have to drive an hour to get there but I go to my group thearpy sessions from 8 am to 10 am but you are closly monitor the days on tuesday and thursday I have to go to a drug store and have a pharamist witness me take it and sign a paper of how much i took and what time , It is a pain at times but my doctor and the adminstrator this is what they do they say sometimes people who doctors write a script and not see them in a couple of week have a tendency of taking more then they are prescribed my doctor and the administrator goes to seminars every other month and I totaly agree with some of it cause I think if I wasnt monitored I would probably do just that, I take 16 mgs a day so for 14 pills and plus my group sessions and i see the doctor once a month it cost me 95.00 a week, they did tell me that after a couple of months I wont have to go the the drug store Ive only been on it for a month and he believes that you need 6 months to a year and I am only to happy to do that sorry about the ramblings but I havent read any post that someone has to go and get there pills like I do, now when I started the first 2 weeks I had to go every day and get them but I am so glad that it is now 3 days a week, with gas prices as high as they are, so thank you for reading

I guess I should have posted that my initial visit was 175.00, sorry

seanyboy
12-29-2006, 09:42 PM
i pay $3 for my script every month (60-8 mg tablets) cuz my insurance covers it, and my insurance also covers my doctor visits which are every 6 months.

Rodney
01-05-2007, 02:11 PM
They are proud of this drug aren't they? $6 to $12 per pill? Can't we ever get a break?

Suture
01-05-2007, 05:22 PM
You are getting ripped off I pay $4.65 for the 8mg. tablet. Shop around.
S-

Grace
01-06-2007, 04:16 AM
$150.00 per month + $85.00 per month Sub

terrim235
01-06-2007, 12:55 PM
I live in Southern Indiana in the metro Louisville Kentucky area.
I get my prescriptions filled at Walgreens now and previously at a little mom & pop pharmacy. Regardless of the mg it's always $105.99 for 30 pills. That would be $3.53 per pill. My insurance pays about half. I pay $55.00.
I can't believe how expensive this is in some areas.
Wonder why the extremes?
Terri

I forgot to mention the doctor visit info.
My doctor is an Internal Medicine physician who has added the bup treatment to his practice. I see him once a month which I guess is his policy as I've read that some other people are seen every 60 days yet others must go daily etc. When I first started it was more frequent (once per week for the first month or so) until we had established a maintenance level.

I'm not sure how he files my insurance but it appears on the bill as a routine visit. So I pay my $30 copay each visit and the insurance pays the balance.

I'm really lucky to have found this doctor. He is very involved in clinics in the area and seems to really care and is committed to finding a solution to effectively treating addiction.
Regards,
Terri

Dale
01-09-2007, 03:52 PM
First purchase of 42x 8mg tablets was $230 @ Kroger Pharmacy (Hyde Park) in Cincinnati Ohio. The CVS pharmacy near UC price matches also. This works out to about $5.50/pill. The Dr. recommended these two stores as the cheapest he knew of from his survey of area prices.

Further research found that the Christ Hospital Apothecary (fancy word for pharmacy) had them for cost + $10 per prescription regardless of quantity. They told me their cost was $73.25 for 30x 2mg ($2.44/ea) & $129.63 for 30x 8mg (4.32/ea). I will be buying the next prescription there. ;)

stormyskier
01-09-2007, 05:50 PM
I have Blue Cross Blue Shield And pay $35.00 for 120 of the 8 mg pills. Insurance also payed $25.00 for induction vist and all follow-up visits here in Gainesville, Fl.
GO GATORS!!!!!

Brett
01-09-2007, 09:38 PM
A friend of mine pays 25 bucks a pill on the street

rindyo
01-10-2007, 11:10 PM
OK, I paid a whopping $8.13 for the induction and $4.20 for 2 subsequent visits. $30 each for 2 sub scripts, regardless of amount -that's the copay. My MD is in my plan and insurance covers. BUT I have a big deductible for both meds and Dr. visits so now that we are in a new year I will pay quite a bit more until I hit the deducts. (I just paid $130.00 for my last script, haven't seen the Dr. bill yet). Once insurance kicks back in, I'll be back on easy street.
Peace

dorylynn
01-11-2007, 09:00 PM
Hello my name is Dori and I live in southeast michigan. I have a great doctor after weeks of calling around. She used to charge only $80 a visit each month but now is charging her patients who have been patients $100 each month. But for new patients it is now $150 each visit. B4 I found her, I went to numerous doctors, each one had a different price, one was $1200, the local one where i live charges $400 if you are there for subutex because you are opiate dependent but if you can make the doctor believe you are taking it for pain, he only makes the patients pay $150 and the sad thing is that we are not there to get ripped off, we are there because we are chosing to get help for our addiction. My doctor understands that and when i told her about the other doctors, she was upset. Her words were, " We become doctors to help people and if your an addict, we are here to help, why should a doctor get to charge different prices for a visit that is no different than if you were to come in with the flu" She doesnt' think it is right for them to charge a fee more than what you would pay for any other visit. I love her.

tradewind
01-14-2007, 05:47 AM
I paid $300.00 for induction and $8.00 for 8 mg tabs. They only charge $50.00 every 2nd visit. I am going to try the drug card and see if that will save some money. I am REALLY afraid of using my drug card and it rasing a RED FLAG with my insurance company. Anyone else had any luck keep the prescritption thing private. I am in Georgia in case anyone was curious

sadie73
01-14-2007, 06:48 PM
Induction was $300, urine screen $35 and office visits $50. I go once a month to get my prescription, and I pay $80 for 14 pills, which is one week, so I end up paying $320 for a month.

Hopeful
01-15-2007, 05:27 AM
That's a good point Dori, the law passed allowing physicians to treat opiate addiction from a doctor's office, kind of made me feel like they were finally realizing that opiate dependancy was a chronic condition, potentially as dangerous as any other disease. I can understand maybe charging a different fee for induction... but you're right, after someone is stablized, future visits should be treated just like any other visit. If you have to go to the Dr. every month to get your script of oxys for chronic pain, you don't have to pay extra because you have chronic pain. We are definitely moving in the right direction, but the system still leaves room for a bit of improvement.
-Brad

jackncokechick
01-21-2007, 02:26 PM
Here in the Detroit area, the suboxone doctors will NOT accept insurance for chemical dependancy suboxone treatment. The prices vary so i shopped around. I ended up finding a doctor about twenty minutes away from home who was only charging $275.00 for the first three visits and then $65.00 for every visit thereafter. There were plenty of doctors closer to my home, however their prices were upwards of $400.00 for the first one or two visits. As for the scrips...if you go to a chain drug store like cvs, rite aide, walgreen ,target...the price is $8.00 a pill, but if you go to an independant pharmacy, they are only $6.00 a pill. Some prescription coverage insurance companies will cover the meds with a prior approval and then you can just pay your copay whatever that may be. It took me over a month to get my prior approval so i have paid cash ever since i started. I take 16 mg. a day ; the out of pocket expense has been ridiculous, however i am willing to do whatever i need to do in order to stay clean. I am thankful that my next scrip will be covered and i will only pay my $40.00 co-pay.

Dale
01-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Here's a quick link to billing code information you might want to help you doctor out with. Maybe once they have this then they will be more willing to file with your insurance (should you want to do that) http://www.naabt.org/documents/PhysicianBillingForOffice.pdf

My earlier posted price shopping experience may not have emphasized this enough so I'll be more direct. The hospital pharmacy (apothacary) was very ethical in wanting to not charge but a minimal fee considering the nature of the drug's need (helping to end dependency). Perhaps other hospital pharmacies charge likewise. If you have a hospital near you I would think you could do no better with a couple minutes by calling to inquire about their pricing.

BTW - I had never heard of a "pill cutter" until this past week but if you were in the dark like me, there is a tool that pharmacies sell to cut a pill into halfs. Depending upon the shape of the pill (I used a 8mg Sub pill which is a 6 sided polygon), the tool can be accurate as it provides a "V" shaped nest where a razor is pressed down from above. This works fine for splitting once. If you want to split that half into a quarter it isn't as precise but with a little care in seating the half-pill I fealt comftable that the Suboxone was cut into a 1/4 dose (2mg). Beyond that this tool is a bit too clumbsy to be useful. If there is a better tool out there I didn't see it at any of the pharmicies I looked. If you know of one please share.

okie
01-21-2007, 06:20 PM
My Dr charged 300 for induction, even tho I was already on the sub and the original Dr was no longer seeing patients in this area..Monthly I see the Dr he charges me my insurance rate of $72 a visit now. My insurance wont pay for anything regarding opiate addiction outside of inpatient treatment.
I get the scrips at walgreens with the drugfree card end up paying $244 a month or so at walgreens for 45 8mg pills..ouch

kickingbear
01-22-2007, 08:37 PM
Western NC: Scrip for Suboxone 30 tabs 8mg at Medcap Pharmacy $163.57.Scrip for Suboxone 14 tabs 8mg at Medcap $78.80.Scrip for 21 tabs 8mg of SUBUTEX at Walmart $158.72.
Scrip for 90 tabs 8mg SUBUTEX at Walmart $629.24.Thank you JESUS for insurance!

ilovemybeemer
01-23-2007, 06:01 PM
i pay $8.00 per pill at CVS Pharmacy.

Roadkingcurley
01-28-2007, 07:15 PM
I paid $388 for 60 8mg's at Wahlgreens.

jefftuttle
02-01-2007, 09:00 PM
I am paying about $5.00 a pill for 8mg at Target Pharmacy
I pay $200.00 per month for my Dr. visit

Joanne
02-02-2007, 06:33 PM
I have a $20 co-pay on my insurance plan Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO, so I pay the twenty dollars for brand name no matter the quantity, but I did notice on the receipt that had I had to have paid full price it would have been $57.00 for 8 8mg tablets. So that's about $7.00 each.

That was at a Walgreen's in NJ.

yecart81
02-28-2007, 11:50 AM
I paid $202 for the induction visit which included 8 mg of sub. I paid $40 co-pay for the sub. I now go to the doctor wkly and pay $60 for the visit (doesn't accept insurance). So my treatement is $400 per month. Not bad considering....

katie0803
03-01-2007, 05:48 PM
i have no insurance and my first visit was $300. 30 of the 8 mg pills are $100 and very visit after the first which is now only once a month is 80. this is expensive but is worth every penny!

swarm
03-02-2007, 06:24 AM
okay,
i need help here because this is starting to get rediculous.Im on 24mg per day,my doctor gives me 90 8mg a month.now im paying 600 dollars a month just for the perscription.and my visit is 200 dollars a month for maintanence.can anyone help me find it for cheaper PLEASE.by the way i have blue cross ppo and they supposedly only cover 11 pills every ninty days,WTF. this is killing me,i am finally on the right dose and am feeling great i've been sober for 9 months but i cant afford this.i hope some one here can help me find a cheaper way to do this.any help would be appreciated, oh i live in southern california in ventura county.please please reply if you can help me in any way shape or form.thanx in advance
steve

NancyB
03-02-2007, 01:05 PM
Hi swarm, Have you tried either of these discount cards in this thread?
http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1302

More importantly, have you called your insurance company and found out why they cover only 11 pills every 90 days? That's .122222222222 pill a day????!!!! Call them and ask, and if you don't get a satisfactory answer from that person, ask to speak with someone else. When I was at the Boston HBO advance showing of the 'Addiction' documentary earlier this week, this was brought up by some people in the audience. Some spoke of problems with insurance companies covering addiction-related items (not bupe in particular). They found that if they pursued the issues with the insurance companies, some things were then covered.

Please, try that. Let me know what happens.

Nancy

swarm
03-02-2007, 03:56 PM
nancy,
yeah that price is the discount that my pharmacy gives me its about 15% off.the pharmacy people are great but its to expensive.plus get this my doctor knows the people that run the place and recomends them,gee i wonder if they are in cahoots with each other,they are both from india,my doctor and my pharmasist.anyway i have been working on getting a prior authorization but my appointment is on monday.i hope i can figure this out soon.

NancyB
03-02-2007, 04:35 PM
Hi swarm, next prescription, just bring it somewhere else. Like walmart or another place like that. Make a few calls first and get the price. It really seems expensive per pill, especially because the insurance doesn't come into play. Does the doctor give you a written prescription or is he calling it into his friend there? Sounds fishy to me. But seriously $6.67 per 8mg pill sounds really expensive. There are people here who've been buying them for around $4 to $5 per tablet.
Let me know.
Nancy

willito
03-03-2007, 06:14 AM
I feel very fortunate that my isnurance covers the medication. I picked up my perscription today from Walgreens, and only had to pay 50$ for 120 8mg tablets. Without the coverage, it would have been 775$. I did have to pay full price for induction and 1st 3 visits (533$), so I guess it all balances out.

geraldi
03-03-2007, 10:58 PM
I pay $20 for my script and $20 co-pay every month. I had to pay $20 per drug screen early on but don't have to do that anymore unless the doctor thinks necessary.
My induction was $70 total $50 one time fee and $20 co-pay. So far my insurance is doing well for me.

swarm
03-05-2007, 06:27 AM
here's the thing i have blue cross ppo from my job.the receptionist at the doctors office is somewhat difficult to deal with(very nice smart gal)but every time i ask for an explanation of benefits or to get a pre-authorization it never seems to get done or she says "your insurance wont cover subutex only suboxone"even though i had an allergic reaction to the suboxone.so its frustrating,i feel a bit like my life is still unmanagable even though this medication has been an intigral tool in my recovery.i'm going in 2marrow for my appointment and im going to try costo,wallgreens,cvs and a few others but ill probley end up going back to the same place because no one else carry's subutex in stock and has to order it,and i could probly wait a day but it's really scary for some one to have my perscription order my meds and possibly take more than 2 days to get it in(not good)ah i will figure it out wish me luck on yet another journey to save money on treatment,at least i am fortunate enough to get treatment and have so many wonderful things in my life. this forum has been so great for me and i haven't usually posted alot of advice for others(i'm more of a lurker)but im so glad that nancy and mary,badassdad and all of you guys are around it's so cool that recovery can unite people who normally never would spaek to each other for a greater cause.anyways i will report what happens 2marrow,thanx to every one who has responded.
steve

dartslant6
03-15-2007, 11:54 AM
I am lucky that my insurance pays for it. All I have to pay is a $20.00 copay no matter how many pills I get. That's why I try to get the doctor to give me a whole months worth at a time. I even offered to bring the pills back to him and he could lock them up and give them to me each week. He said that I didn't have to, he trusted me.
dartslant6

janisb
03-16-2007, 04:48 AM
I paid $500 for the induction and to set me up in the program. Then I paid $150 for 30 8mg Suboxone's at an independent pharmacy my doctor recommended. I am so paranoid about someone finding out that I'm on this that I'm not even using my debit card or writing checks. I'm paying cash. I work at CVS and will check again next time I'm there but I think our cash price is around $145 for 30 tablets. Note that this only a ten-day supply for most of us.

bdog
03-16-2007, 01:27 PM
I pay 4.70 per 8mg tablet..1250.00 for induction. I also had to pay for 4 xanax and phenergan suppositories during induction because I was so sick.

dr_p
03-18-2007, 01:27 AM
Hello,

I am glad to see that my fees are in the middle or a little low. I will so advise my patients that object to the fees.

Patients come to me for a professional service. I am not a store. If a patients leaves without obtaining the prescription he/she wants, whether it be suboxone or oxycontin, he is still charged for the visit. Not to pay constitutes theft of service.

As providers we are faced with multiple problems in the treatment of addiction. There are number of good patients - about 55% according to the company - but there are also patients that come in high and ask for suboxone, and patients that come in demanding xanax as well as suboxone, for which there have been more than two hundred reported deaths. These problem patients always take more time. The high fees we charge are because of the other category of patient. It is a way of being selective. In addition, there is a growing problem in NE PA of diversion (street sales) and we are obliged to protect our license.

Continuing,

The company recommends that we bill for 90801 /90805 / 90807 which are substance abuse/mental health codes. Medicaid in PA does not cover these codes when billed by a non-psychiatrist. When a service is not covered by Medicaid, we may charge the patient directly.

Suboxone is an adjuvant to addiction treatment. The mainstay of treatment is counseling and staying clean and sober. It takes about five years for the nerve cells to regenerate. Some of this can take place on lower doses of Suboxone, but more slowly. While it is acceptable to be on maintenance as long as is needed, it is just that - maintenance. In PA one could not become a counselor while being on Suboxone.

So far the only company that we have found that covers the visit is United Behavioral Health. I have had individual-patient contracts with other companies which pay me $60/ visit. At that rate, I need to be seeing patients weekly. The visit 90805 is twenty five minutes. The withdrawal scale and the mental status exam can be done by my staff. I still need to go in and verify the findings (and write the prescriptions).

Trazadone is good as a sleep aid. I tend to prescribe Celexa plus Seroquel or Remeron, depending on the psychiatric findings.

Side effect from too high a dose include insomnia and constipation.

The half-life in the receptors is thirty six hours. On induction you can expect an attenuated withdrawal for about six days, until you reach steady state. The same rule applies to tapering, or any other dose adjustment.

Thanks.

Suture
03-18-2007, 03:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by dr_p

....patients that come in demanding xanax as well as suboxone, for which there have been more than two hundred reported deaths....
Welcome to the board. I think it should be added that these patients were injecting subutex along with a possible fatal dose of benzos, and most of them were outside of the US. Are there still docs with waiting lists in Easter PA, now that some can treat 100? Thanks.
S-

mamasan
03-19-2007, 12:59 AM
Hi everyone. I am paying $695 for 120 8mg 2mg at Longs Druds 2X. I wished I could find a Dr. within a 50 mile radius that hasn't already got someone on the "free sub for a year" program with the drug company. I have 2 daughters in their early 20's both on Sub with no health insurance and no extra money and I'm footing the bill...
Can anyone suggest something? I live in the foothills between Lake Tahoe and Sacramento.
Thanks
Mamasan

TIM
03-19-2007, 03:50 AM
Hi mamasan,
The drug company will be expanding to 2 patients per doctor soon, because of the increase to 100 patients for some docs. I don't know any more details at this time, but as soon as I do I will post them. Is you doc eligible for the 100 patient increase?
Tim

srfnonsbxn
03-22-2007, 06:18 AM
The first two times I picked up 45 8 mg suboxones for a copay of 35.00 and Today I went to pick up my script and it cost me 175.00. I have a Blue Cross HMO plan. I plan to call Blue Cross California tomorrow and ask them what the deal is. I might have to taper down real fast.

louandnan
03-26-2007, 04:14 PM
I sm new to this naabt!! I am getting so discouraged! I am self-employed, been very slow in the flooring business the past 3 months. I cannot receive insurance due to a pre-existing back problem, I pay $300/month for my suboxone, plus $140/month office visits, $50/month for drug screening, and then $50/month for the counseling sessions! My family is so understanding, but it has been becoming a huge $$$$$ situation for us. I have been on the suboxone maintenance for over a year and my doc says, "I have to be on it the rest of my life!" I need help fast! I spoke to the suboxone line and they reffered me to the patient assistance program, but it is only 1 member per doctor for the assistance!!

mikells43
04-02-2007, 03:16 AM
my insurance pays for it, i have a 3 dollar copay. i have pa medicade and all u have to do is too get the doc to fax in a non formulary form and they over ride it and its paid for. i pay 15 for the doc visit, she is so awsome

akamhija
04-02-2007, 05:21 AM
my Dr. is in Weirton W.Va. it was 175$ for the first visit and 100$ for followup visits my ohio medicaid covers the scrip with a 3.00 copay but like a few others i did not realize that i would have to see the dr. a week after my first visit. he only writes scripts for 30 2mg at a time and if i am to stop additive behavior i cannot afford 100$ a week so through this sight I have found a few other Dr. in my area and as of tomorrow morning I will be on the phone trying to find one that will take my Ohio medicaid

Frozen
04-02-2007, 06:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by dr_p

but there are also patients that come in high and ask for suboxone,

Isn't that exactly what suboxone is FOR?- Helping patients overcome their addictions by switching from full agonists to suboxone? Why then, are these people 'problem patients' in your eyes?

quote:Originally posted by dr_p

and patients that come in demanding xanax as well as suboxone, for which there have been more than two hundred reported deaths.

Would you mind providing a single thread of evidence to support that claim? Were you referring to European bupe patients who were given pure buprenorphine (NOT suboxone, which is highly abuse-resistant), who died by injecting bupe & benzos together?

You do realize how the naloxone component in suboxone makes such a scenario far less likely to occur, right?

Hopieann
04-06-2007, 05:53 PM
When I began taking suboxone approx. 3 years ago I was paying a $25 co-pay for 90 to 120 8 mg. tabs ea. month. Since then, my insurance company (very well known and which has previously paid very well) has abritrarily decided that they will only pay a certain percentage of certain rx's (the expensive ones, of course), so I've gone from paying a $25 co-pay each month to paying $271 per month at Fred Meyer. It's still a bargain for what I've been able to accomplish while on this drug but it concerns me for those people out there who are not able to try this treatment only because of financial hardship. Are there any need meds programs for this drug?

blue9
04-07-2007, 02:12 AM
i`m staggered to read how much you guys pay in america.i`m an aussie and over here we pay nothing for the doctor`s appointment, and we pay $5 a day or $30 a week no matter what dose of sub/bupe/methadone we are on.

Shellon
04-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Wow, I cannot believe that some of the Dr's, pharmacies and insurance companies are taking such advantage of people who ligetimatly need this medication. Would it be so easy and proper for them to pump up cancer meds?
We have illnesses and need medicine PERIOD.
I am very lucky. I pay a co-pay and $25.00 a 3 month prescription

twhit58
05-01-2007, 02:25 PM
My insurance pays for the medication,$20 for any amount but the doc is not filing for my insurance and her office appts have been $100,$200.00 for induction,I think the 100 per visit is extreme but I see how much you guys are paying so I guess I'll be happy with this amount.

Heluvalife
05-03-2007, 05:53 PM
WOW! I just started my treatment today! I went to the doc yesterday and took my first Suboxone this morning. Thank God I found out about it, and I am really glad I found this board!! BUT, I cannot believe how much some people have to pay for it, including the doc office visits. I feel lucky to have insurance. Yesterday I was a little upset that I had to pay $50 with insurance for 30 8mg and my co-pay of $20 for the doctor. I can't get over how someone said that where they live the doc wanted to charge 3200.00. Thats awful. I'm sitting here shaking my head. Some states offer discount prescription cards, here in Michigan they do, maybe for those of you without ins. should ask at a pharmacy or their doc's office if they have any info about that.

josie
05-06-2007, 05:06 AM
Check www.freedrugcard.us. It offers a discount on the prescription. Also if you qualify, the drug company will provide free suboxone for one patient in each physician's practice. I believe that the doctors that are now able to treat 100 patients are having their nunber getting free sub increased to three patients. I know the chances are slim; but it is worth a try.

~josie

CindyV
05-10-2007, 01:34 PM
I paid 1400.00 for the induc. I pay 200 every 2 weeks for my Sub and thank god my insurance covers my sub at 35.00. for what ever amount the dr. gives me. This is in Northern VA.

BaBy bLuE
05-11-2007, 04:03 AM
insurance covers my meds except for $50, and f/u dr's visits are $100-$90 if i refer someone to him. I have to go on a mandatory monthly basis for 6 months more or less (LESS I HOPE!!) Do most sub Dr's require a monthly visit?

oh...forgot to mention..the initial appt. was @275

Douglas
05-11-2007, 07:57 PM
I paid $7 for my induction script and my script for suboxone 8mg 30 from my doctor at Peak Vista Community Health Center. I go to a privately owned pharmacy (one that is still in existence). You may not know this but Walgreens, Albertsons etc, etc are buying up the privately owned pharmacies. I go to Pikes Peak Pharmacy. Joe the owner use to own Exective Pharmacy, but he thought he wanted to retire and sold to Walgreens. He came out of retirement and start Pikes Peak Pharmacy. He doesn't stock Subutex or Suboxone, but he'll have it the next day after 10AM. Anyway the 6 2mg Subutex cost $25 and the 30 8mg Suboxone cost $153 - He's cool, I only had $144 and said, just catch me next time. Great guy and cares very much about everbody, even us recovering addicts.
I called 1-877-Suboxone and they gave me another number which is at home (I'm at the Library). I called the other number and they told me to doctor has to call them, and they will send the enrollment papers to him. You fill some info, he fills some info and if you qualify they will send the free Suboxone directly to the Doctor. He fills out the script on the enrollment papers and they sent the meds to the address that corresponds to his DEA number.
To pay $3200 is criminal. It is price gouging and opiate addiction is a national emergency. That doc should be doing some time with the big boys at the pen. I know he might of saved your life, but now that he has I would do some research. I got off 128mg of methadone on 12/21/06. From 128mg to 0mgs. It almost killed me and I almost killed myself. My brother did kill himself on September 5, 2005, because he couldn't handle the detox of methadone. May he rest in peace. I love you, Rick.
Anyway that's my story - If there is anyone in the Springs area that needs help getting on Suboxone without paying over $500 the meth clinic charges.

Doug

NancyB
05-11-2007, 09:14 PM
Hi Douglas and welcome, Here's a thread that has some information about the manufacturer's assistance program:
http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=673

Also, here's a thread with some discount prescription cards:
http://www.naabt.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1302

My condolences to you for the passing of your brother. May he rest in peace.

Nancy

Douglas
05-13-2007, 10:29 PM
Thanks for the info Nancy, but I believe and hope going in daily is for the Doctor discretion. He gave my a script of 30 8mg with 3 refills. He initially wants to see me monthly (to make sure I'm going to groups and counseling). He just seems like the type that would raise my dose to 24mg (90 pills), and just get the others the next month (I hope). That was the whole purpose of DATA2000, was to make it more convenient to dose. Praise God I'm off Methadone. I think I feel better because of the anti-depressent action of bupe. Anyway $0 for 90 8 mg Suboxone sounds great to me. And I don't no anybody who would want to buy Suboxone, it doesn't get me high, just hyper.

Later, from the mountains. Doug

nubbin
05-15-2007, 02:00 AM
I'm pretty darn lucky, my sub doctor is willing to bill my insurance and only charges me the copay of $25 and at the CVS I pay $30 for a months worth of 8mg tabs. I have BCBS-Tx, PPO. I live 1 1/2 hours away from where my dr. is but as I've said before, i would have driven 20 hours to get my next Rx of hydro! so what's an hour and a half??!!! When I looked for a dr. others were wanting $900 or more up front and $200 each visit there after and wouldn't bill insurance! I was very blessed. My dr. is also in a 12 step program and has been VERY compassionate and understanding. I'm his first patient as he only got "certified" one week prior to my contacting him! Everyone on his staff have been wonderful to me and seem to be genuinly concerned for me and happy for my progress!

nubbin in dusty west Texas

christopherjon23
05-20-2007, 07:42 PM
i pay 100 bucks cash for a dr's. visit. 200 for the first detox visit...i get 8mg pills for 30 copay. 60 of them. anyone else here pay cash for dr's. visits????

hockeynut
05-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Chris,
My doctor made me pay cash also it cost me an arm and a leg....which I found was weird! So I said the heck with this and I did a Taper and I was off Sub in 3 weeks and I am so glad that I did it that way!!
My doctor was pissed that I was going off Sub.

Good Luck

NancyB
05-20-2007, 08:41 PM
Hi christopherjon23, One thing you might want to try is to self-submit the doctor bills to your insurance company. Either call your carrier, or check and see if they have the forms online. We have a few people here doing that. What type of plan/coverage will determine what amount you'll get reimbursed. But make sure they give you a receipt.
Nancy

bdog
05-21-2007, 08:58 AM
christopherjon23,
I pay 4.70 per 8mg tablet..1250.00 for induction. I also had to pay for 4 xanax and phenergan suppositories during induction because I was so sick.
Total for 3 days was around 1500.00 Crazy price!Also the doctor inducted me at 350 mgs of methadone-suboxone.I was in precipitated wds for 8 hrs.The price,bad transition,and crummy doctor,made me think I did the wrong thing.Almost 4 months later and having a life I never thought possible,I would do it all over again!
Peace..Bdog

here to learn
06-07-2007, 05:11 AM
quote:Originally posted by Frozen

quote:Originally posted by dr_p



[quote]Originally posted by dr_p

and patients that come in demanding xanax as well as suboxone, for which there have been more than two hundred reported deaths.

Would you mind providing a single thread of evidence to support that claim? Were you referring to European bupe patients who were given pure buprenorphine (NOT suboxone, which is highly abuse-resistant), who died by injecting bupe & benzos together?

You do realize how the naloxone component in suboxone makes such a scenario far less likely to occur, right?


In defense of Dr. P. I have to say a few things. Several of the docs in my area would not even look at me because I had been taking Clonazepam in the previous days before trying to book an appointment. As well, my psychiatrist does not prescribe Bupe so I go to a different doctor for the Bupe (who is in contact with my psychiatrist). My psychiatrist told me I could take clonazepam if I was stressed or whatever so I did a trial knowing I was heading into a stressful situation this past weekend. So, last week I took my usual dose of Suboxone - 8mg, and took 1mg of Clonazepam. KNOCKED me on my butt! So, given that I did not inject either of the drugs, one can safely assume that there is inherent danger in combining the two drugs and it must be done safely. If a doctor is to give a patient a script for both a benzo, be it clonazepam, xanax, or lorazepam, the doctor must be aware that the potential for abuse is high. Remember, we are addicts in treatment with a drug - Suboxone - and some of us addicts are requesting a benzo to help with other symptomology. The problem is the benzodiazepines make one VERY high. With your narcotic receptors full, benzos work on the GABA receptors so you get a double whammy effect. If a doctor prescribes a benzo and the sub and the patient abuses the prescription, there is a potential for the patient to die. If the patient, a known abuser or either street drugs or prescription drugs, dies, what is the doctors liability? I am not a lawyer so I am not sure but given the litigious society we live in, I am sure that the someone in the patient's family could build a case that the doctor was negligent.

So I agree, those are high risk patients. My wife controls my benzo's and keeps them locked up and doses them based on my requests. Honest, if I was stressed would I take it to feel good, maybe, I am an addict and I like to feel good. Can everyone be honest with themselves?

D

Now onto what I pay. I found a great doctor who is very understanding. I have yet to get any billing from his office but my understanding is he is billing insurance. I have just over $13K ever 24 months in drug treatment therapy costs. Prescriptions are prescriptions, thus are subject to my normal copays and such so I pay $75 for one month of pills, regardless of dose or number, although I have a limit of 90 pills per month. The total charged by the pharmacy to my prescription drug provider, counting my co-pay, was over $450.

The first few doctors I called were asking for THOUSANDS of dollars of upfront money for the first doctor visit alone! The thought that some of these doctors are overcharging SIGNIFICANTLY more than they would make if they billed insurance, as they do for all the other procedures done on a daily basis, is disgusting. Healthcare professionals do their job by choice. That choice does not mean they want to do their job for free! The renumeration given to physicians has decreased over the years and most doctors are upset over it as they should be. But, to see some doctors, who for minimal cost and training (at the minimum to be able to prescribe Suboxone the doctor must take one eight hour class on drug addiction). So for example, a PCP who has seen his/her renumberation decreased greatly over the years by the government, can now receive a "raise" if you will by freely being able to over charge their patients, kind of like dentists have been able to do for years. There is no oversight over the prescription of Suboxone, only oversight to the number of patients a doctor sees. I find this practice questionable on many levels. Why can a doctor not charge a non-compliant diabetic more for care? Why can a doctor not charge an overweight non-compliant, couch potato more for treating his fourth heart attack in four years? Yet this same government who oversees our healthcare system will turn it's eyes to this treatment? This is disgusting to me, totally disgusting. Perhaps if the doctor is fully addictions trained and trained to deal with the psychological component of the disease. Anyone can take the eight hours training and have the same skill level as the doctors who do not have any advanced treatment training.

Anyway I am rambling and I am sure getting off topic in a huge way! In summary, regular office billing co-pay, whatever that is and regular prescription drug costs. I am lucky with all of that and really feel for the people who are being opening screwed, again.

Sublime318
06-08-2007, 10:47 AM
INITIAL DOC VISIT - 250. FOLLOW UP VISITS 125 - THEY WILL GIVE YOU UP TO 120 8MG PILLS. AROUND HERE (ATLANTIC CITY,NJ) THE 8MG PILLS GO FOR 5-7 DOLLARS DEPENDING WHERE YOU GO. MY INSURANCE COVERS ONLY THE PILLS, NOT THE VISITS.I PAY AROUND 25 FOR 40 8 MG PILLS.

floater
06-14-2007, 08:31 PM
My induction was $500.00 in a tiny town in Nevada, 2.5. hours away, not including the medication. Paid cash for that. approx.$90.00 at CVS
Las Vegas doctors varied with induction cost..$650-850.
My insurance covers the scripts - 20$ co-pay.
Insurance wouldn't cover induction cost! BUT..they wanted me to go into a 30 day treatment center which is covered 100%. go figure. $500 vs $31.000...DUH!

ridinthetrain
06-15-2007, 02:38 AM
I pay $100 a visit, which was also the price of my first visit. I lucked out with this doctor. Most in the area charge $250-400 for the first visit, and $100-$300 after that. $100 for the first visit, and every visit thereafter, is an incredible deal. At one 8 mg pill per day, I get 30 pills per month. I travel more than a half hour away to a great pharmacy. They only charge $4.80 a pill, whereas most charge $6-9 per pill. It's ludacris the way people are so greedy in this business. I pay $244 per month total, which includes the prescription and doctor's visit. I couldn't afford this if it were any different.

Sub-Zero
06-24-2007, 05:23 PM
Wow $100/visit is good. My doc charges $150 but agreed to see me once every 2 months now. I think as more docs gets certified and comfortable with the treatment the price will come down.
Sub

Sluice7
07-03-2007, 02:44 AM
$80.00 for Doc visit(once a month) and $250.00 for #45/8mg Suboxone. Does anyone know when Bup will be elegible to be sold generically?,,,,Scott in SoCal....

SpAcEdGeD
07-03-2007, 12:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by Sluice7

$80.00 for Doc visit(once a month) and $250.00 for #45/8mg Suboxone. Does anyone know when Bup will be elegible to be sold generically?,,,,Scott in SoCal....



Not until 2009 will it become available generically. If you don't have insurance you can use this www.freedrugcard.us it is a discount prescription drug card that can be used for Suboxone/Subtex and it can be used at many pharmacies in your area. Check out the site to find out about it, allot of people here use it and it works.

DyingToLive
07-03-2007, 01:35 PM
For those that live in CT and have Anthem Blue Cross....

I pay a $30.00 copay per visit, and $20.00 for a month's prescription of 8mg tabs (2x a day).

mikells43
07-05-2007, 04:50 AM
gosh mama that would be like enough money for me to take sub for 6 years at the price i pay for them i guess im lucky:)

also speaking on the abuse of benzos with bupe. i have a friend who got a script for xanax form his doc while on bupe . became addicted to taking 3mg per day thats 1 1mg pill 3 times daily. (it got him high i kno it did cause id see him in meetings all loopy.) but had a horrible detox and his mom kicked him out of the house and now he has to come offf bupe and go to a halfway house

KWMackey
07-05-2007, 11:22 AM
My insurance covers the like 80% of the treatment. Ive been going since middle of January and it cost me like 200 bucks so far. The Sub costs me 27 bucks for 56 8 mg tabs.

XweAponX
07-10-2007, 10:22 PM
Oh My... Well, in San Diego, the year I started, the MONTH before I started, it was $145 for 30 8MG tablets. I had it all scoped out, and I was going to get the Suboxone from this pharmacy for that much (which was the lowest in all of San Diego).

By the time I got my prescription, the price had doubled-and a half. so for 3 months I had to pay... Well my scrip was for 60 tablets. I was paying 300 per 30, as often as I could afford it.

2005 was also the year the damned Medi-lack-of-care Part D started. I was stuck with Pacifcare... BASTARDS.

I had to talk my doctor into using my whole 30-minute session just to call these pricks at pacificare, but in the end, they approved... One whole year of Suboxone. But then some wiseass pharmacy owner talked me into changing to Blue Cross and they lied to me that this was a professional insurance company... they are actually worse than Pacificare!

At least My doctor and I could CALL pacificare. What I have had to endure with Blue Cross has been a nightmare. Finally, I found the hidden forms on the Blue Cross website, along with the phone numbers that the doctor is supposed to call... The numbers they tell you to call, printed on the card, are not the numbers for part D.

In 2006 I had several months I had to pay 600-700 bucks just for 90 days of Suboxone, it was alright cos I could do some work and get the money to pay for it.

But I saved all the receipts, in 2005 year it added up to about 1100 bucks I paid for various medications, not just Suboxone. I submitted the receipts to the department of housing and they kept my assistance payment at a reasonable level while everyone else was having to pay the excess rents.

Well, thank God for Arnold Schwarzenegger in California, you know I voted for him although I did not like him much except as The Terminator, and he changed the law thus: If ANYONE in California, on Medicare Part D, and is NOT able to get an exception, which by law you are supposed to be able to apply for... If you get no response within a month from your provider: And this means, either your doctor refuses to call, or, the insurance company dicks you around:

Then you can bring your scrip to any pharmacy and apply for an Emergency TAR.

I got the forms saved on my other computer... it is a huge PDF file, I studied it: And it comes up on Our side:

So if you have Medi-Medi in California: There is NO reason for you to pay those enormous amounts.

I have heard that in Sweden, Suboxone or the equivalent, is about 50 bucks for like 60 or 90 dollars, or maybe even less.

In the US the prices for medical treatment are all guaged for Insurance to pay for it... And this screws the people with NO Insurance. The doctors offices are supposed to offer the services for about 2/3 less for non-insurance patients, but God knows if they do that or not.

Bottom Line: There is ALWAYS some program to help payment of expensive drugs. But in California, Medi-Medi patients, are basically taken care of by Medicaid, like they used to be before 2005.

I'll have to find the links to the forms you need to apply: It is called an EDB:

AH: Here is the LINK. If you are in California, it may apply to you.

Ah... This was a temporary thing. That SUCKS, cos I had to use it once, and I may need help like this again.

If your prescription was made out at any time before Feb, 2007, and you had to pay for it, you may be able to get your money back with a retoactive EDB.

http://files.medi-cal.ca.gov/pubsdoco/whatsnew_8350.asp

The service ended in June. This really sucks.

Let me explain how it works: Certain medications that are not paid by part D are still paid by Medicaid: For me, that means Klonopin, I get real Klonopin for my mucle tics. There is some law that prevents coverage of benzodiazapines under part D. But under Medicaid, you can get them (and they are 100% paid for, no co-pay).

Arnold had given us these months because lots of older people need all kinds of medications not covered by part D.

The problem is, this EDB program shoudl have been a forever-type thing, not a temporary thing.

I guess we have to send letters to Arnold and ask him to make it more permanent, cos these problems with part D will be permanent.

You know when Clinton was president? I never had to worry about any of my medications. He had that sewn up good.

Fish
07-14-2007, 04:35 PM
Southern California and Pacific Care Pays for the prescriptions with 20 dollar deductable. My Wife and I work in the movie industry and I've seen vicodins for sale around but never the subs. I get 90 - 8's per month.

Richardh754
07-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Here in the UK i guess we are lucky its free, but years ago all they would give you was Britlofex which was crap,Thank god things have moved on

AngelLizzie
07-18-2007, 05:04 AM
1st Month $800
2nd Month $400
Additional Months $200

Prescription w/insurance
1st had 15 8mg tablets and paid $14.86. Very odd number but there you have it.

This is the doctor visits.
Not including the outpatient therapy I'll have to recieve as terms of my treatment. I'll learn the actual numbers soon. Doc approx a few thousand (Awesome) &lt;- Sarcasim

So we shall see.

tennman
07-27-2007, 03:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by bill

3200.oo bucks thats insain. or people in TN must have a lot of money. i guess if thats what you need to do to get clean its still cheaper then speanding your money on drugs for the rest of your life i know i spent that much money on drugs in a weekend. sad it makes me to think something had that much of a hold on me.


There is one doctor charging outrageous amounts. He got my husband for $1200 for one day, and wanted $3800.00 for the next two weeks. Needless to say he did not go back. We have checked the other physicians in the area they are not that expensive. He has not went back yet. I am mistaken that was 6800.00 for the next two weeks. He was definitely not feeling well after his visit with this doctor. He also informed us he not only does not accept insurance, he will not give a statement with codes so you can file it with your insurance.

Hozz
07-27-2007, 04:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by tennman

There is one doctor charging outrageous amounts. He got my husband for $1200 for one day, and wanted $3800.00 for the next two weeks. Needless to say he did not go back.

He also informed us he not only does not accept insurance, he will not give a statement with codes so you can file it with your insurance.
Hi Tennman:

Most states do not regulate how much a physician can charge for their services. However, most states do require physicians to provide to their patient’s a receipt with a description of services provided. (Some also require they provide IPC codes that relate to insurance companies) Contact your State Medical Board (Or the agency that regulates physicians in your state) and inquire if that physician is in violation of your state’s administrative rules)

The prices you mention are outrageous and it’s too bad your husband wasn’t able to follow-up with someone else who wasn’t all about the money. Sometimes it can take a couple of weeks to become stabilized but well worth it in the end. I wish the best of luck to both you and your husband.

Jloren
07-29-2007, 01:13 AM
Hi..
My Dr. doesn't accept insurance (but he does have an insurance form filled out for you to submit..)

Dr. - $380 first visit (2.5 hours) - to determine if suboxone and I were a good fit. $320 induction - 9:00am until 2:00 pm. $195 follow-up visits (1/week for the first 2 week, next appt is 20 days later.. that is all I've been to)

A&D Counselor - $100 - 1 hour

Suboxone - $7.00 per 8/2 then used the card available at www.freedrugcard.us and now I pay about $4.80 per 8/2. Get this card!!! :)

While I have a very good insurance plan.. wife and I decided to pay out-of-pocket so there wouldn't be any record of what I am doing

JLoren

subtom
08-02-2007, 04:59 PM
It is $347.99 for 60 8mg tablets at the rite aid in my hometown I live in Michigan. However, I am disabled and due to that fact recieve medicare which also gives me a prescription plan called Humana so thank you jesus I only pay $3.00 for my monthly script. However I would like to add even if I did not have insurance and had to pay the $347 for a month's supply I would as this med is worth every penny compared to the thousands and thousands of dollars I have spent on pain pills and H. To save my life and my money I would not hesitate too pay full price if I had to. I also would like to add while my script is covered unfourtantly at this time I do have to pay to see the Dr. Once a month and that cost me $95.00/visit. Unfourtantly at this time they do not accept medicare as a form of insurance,They accept state medicade which I also have(I recieve the state medicade automatically because of the disability and the fact I have medicare)But they cannot bill the medicade as Medicare is my primary Insurance which means that is the insurance I have to use for Dr's visits and whatever Medicare does not pay on the balance of a visit Medicade then picks up the remainder, but as I was saying if they tried to bill just my Medicade it would be rejected as Medicare is my primary insurance.MAJOR BUMMER:(. But hell still $95.00 for the visit and $3.00 for the script to save my life"WORTH EVERY PENNY AND THEN SOME":)

crice
08-09-2007, 12:19 AM
I get my SUB medication for FREE. I signed uo for this program the the maker of Suboxone offers. Its great I take 16mg a day and get it for free. I just have to go to the Doctor 1 a months to pick up my months supply for free. I love this program. If anyone is interested go to www.needymeds.com and do a search you will find it. The Doctor will need to call for a faxed application that you will both have to fill out. Its easy I was approved in just 3 days and my meds are here.Im soooo happy.

josie
08-09-2007, 01:05 AM
Each doctor is allowed one patient in this program. At one point I think that the drug company was considering increasing this number since they increased the number of patients a physician can treat (once the doctor has their waiver for at least a year). Here is the most current information about this program:

This program provides brand name medications.
Pharmaceutical Company Reckitt Benckiser
Program Name Suboxone Patient Assistance Program
Program Address RB Processing Center
PO Box 1113
Wayne, NJ 07474-1113
Phone Number 866-512-2216


Fax Number
Medications on Program Suboxone sublingual tablets 2mg (buprenorphine)
Suboxone sublingual tablets 8mg (buprenorphine)

Application Forms Not Applicable
On-line Application
(Doctors Only) No on-line application available at this time
Web Site No link available.
Eligibility Guidelines and Notes The patient can have no public or private prescription insurance and have an income at or below $25,000 for an individual ($34,500 for a family of two, $43,000 for a family of three) The patient must be 16 years or older. A doctor can only have one patient on the program at any time.

Application Process The doctor/doctor's office should call for an enrollment form. The enrollment form is faxed out. The completed enrollment form must be mailed back. The doctor is notified of acceptance or denial.

Application Requirements The doctor must fill out a section and sign the application. The patient must fill out a section, sign the application and attach proof of income.

Program Details Up to a 30-day supply is sent to the doctor's office. The company automatically sends out refills. Every 6 months a new application is needed.

Last Updated May 22, 2007

~josie